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Offline plexi50

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EL84 Sockets Well Done
« on: December 03, 2011, 03:32:30 pm »
I replaced these same sockets 3 years ago in a Blues Junior. I can not get the tubes to release from the melted sockets. New tubes would be a good idea anyway at the looks of it.

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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 03:33:56 pm »
Woah! Are those tubes biased hot!

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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 03:36:23 pm »
No the bias was right. The person just leaves the amp on for days in a row because he forgets to shut it off. No standby switch. That was 3 years ago so i cant say how much on time it has on the tubes. Thats a lot of heat though

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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 04:17:58 pm »
ceramic.

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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 05:22:19 pm »
I replaced these same sockets 3 years ago in a Blues Junior. I can not get the tubes to release from the melted sockets. New tubes would be a good idea anyway at the looks of it.

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Wire up the 6.3v heater supply and let sit until the sockets are soft then try to remove them.  :icon_biggrin: 

I usually find myself doing the "more trouble than it's worth" kind of things.


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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 07:10:43 pm »
Good idea on the heat bigsbybender. I heated the pins up with a barbecue lighter and then pulled the pins off the tubes. Worked quick. One tube good ,One tube DOA

Yeah i will use ceramic sockets this time. I thought thats what i bought for this job back then. They were white
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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 11:47:40 pm »
LOL. That's insane!

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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 12:35:17 am »
> just leaves the amp on for days in a row

Radio stations and computers left the tubes on 23/7.

I've never seen anything like that.

The rig needs better ventilation and ceramic sockets.

> I thought thats what i bought ... They were white

Use the blow-torch test.

I'd really want to drop B+ and raise cathode resistor; but I suppose the customer would whine about less loudness.

If this were a serious problem one could invent a time-out to stick another 1K of bias under the finals after 60 minutes of no-signal, with instant-on when signal happens again.

Or just put a fan in it. THAT will remind him to hit the power switch at bed-time.


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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 10:26:31 am »
When i first saw this yesterday i thought i was looking at Carmel Candy. It took me a few seconds to realize what i was looking at. Ive never seen sockets melt before. The customer is putting a fan in and i am double checking the sockets i buy this time

Im surprised that the tube plates are not disscolored
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Re: EL84 Sockets Well Done
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 10:41:07 am »
I have modified a few blues Jr. with a larger output transformer, Hammond 1750H and changed the output tubes to octal 7591. I suppose 6V6 would work also.

 


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