Welcome To the Hoffman Amplifiers Forum

September 08, 2025, 01:48:02 pm
guest image
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
-User Name
-Password



Hoffman Amps Forum image Author Topic: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???  (Read 5259 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline kagliostro

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 7740
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« on: July 17, 2012, 05:07:29 pm »
May be this evening I'm tired, I'm not able to read correctly the schematic of Mesa Boogie BlueAngel preamp

What is doing there V1b  :w2:

is the schematic missing something or my brain at the moment is out of service ??

I can see the signal coming from V1a entering in V1b, but from where the signal go out from V1b ??

Many Thanks for any explanation about

K
« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 03:17:03 am by kagliostro »
The world is a nice place if there is health and there are friends

Offline jim

  • Level 2
  • **
  • Posts: 432
  • may the pure orange light shine upon you
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 07:18:49 pm »
That is a cathode follower.  It doesn't pass signal --as I understand it offers current amplification and lowers impedance for driving a tone stack and other stages.  Look at the huge size of the cathode resistor, and the plate is connected directly to the power supply.  I've never experimented with one.

Jim
The music industry is a cruel and shallow money trench--a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men left to die like dogs.   There is also a negative side.

Offline sluckey

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 5075
    • Sluckey Amps
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 08:09:53 pm »
Yes, it's a cathode follower. But the cathode output is not used. I suspect V1B is there because the engineers thought it would be nice to have the option of using a cathode driven tonestack or a plate driven tonestack. Looks like they decided to use the plate driven tonestack and just left the cathode follower wired up. It's doing nothing, but it ain't hurting anything either. That's the second wasted tube I've seen in a Messy. I'll bet it's part of the charm.  :wink:
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

Offline kagliostro

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 7740
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 03:34:52 am »
I just noticed that on the faceplate of that amp there is a Bright/Fat switch that I didn't see on the schematic

is possible that is connected or to the plate of V1a or to the cathode of V1b (than to the next stage) ?

K
The world is a nice place if there is health and there are friends

Offline tubenit

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 10274
  • Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 05:05:17 am »
Perhaps the schematic is not drawn correctly?

Tubenit

Offline sluckey

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 5075
    • Sluckey Amps
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 05:26:59 am »
Quote
I just noticed that on the faceplate of that amp there is a Bright/Fat switch that I didn't see on the schematic
I see it.
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

Offline kagliostro

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 7740
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 06:37:02 am »
As suggested in one other forum, may be there is a mistake on the schematic

see the MB Maverick preamp

K
The world is a nice place if there is health and there are friends

Offline sluckey

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 5075
    • Sluckey Amps
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 07:09:41 am »
Ahhh, that bright/fat switch. :wink:

Switch between plate driven or cathode driven TS.
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

Offline kagliostro

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 7740
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: Mesa Boogie BlueAngel Preamp - What is doing V1b ???
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2012, 08:35:32 am »
Quote
Switch between plate driven or cathode driven TS

Yes, as in the faceplate there is only one switch, may be that it acts at the same time the switch between plate or cathode and the switch on the Tonestack (see Blue Angel TS)

K
The world is a nice place if there is health and there are friends

 


Choose a link from the
Hoffman Amplifiers parts catalog
Mobile Device
Catalog Link
Yard Sale
Discontinued
Misc. Hardware
What's New Board Building
 Parts
Amp trim
Handles
Lamps
Diodes
Hoffman Turret
 Boards
Channel
Switching
Resistors Fender Eyelet
 Boards
Screws/Nuts
Washers
Jacks/Plugs
Connectors
Misc Eyelet
Boards
Tools
Capacitors Custom Boards
Tubes
Valves
Pots
Knobs
Fuses/Cords Chassis
Tube
Sockets
Switches Wire
Cable


Handy Links
Tube Amp Library
Tube Amp
Schematics library
Design a custom Eyelet or
Turret Board
DIY Layout Creator
File analyzer program
DIY Layout Creator
File library
Transformer Wiring
Diagrams
Hoffmanamps
Facebook page
Hoffman Amplifiers
Discount Program


password