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redux of a redux.
« on: May 20, 2017, 10:08:40 pm »
back in 2013 i picked up a crate 1D sand-state amp from the 80's that just sounded like crap. i punted the SS stuff and stuffed a KT88 SE circuit in it. sounded OK - not spectacular, but OK. sold it in february 2013 to a friend who bought more for nostalgia than the tone. fast-forward 4+ years i get a call: do you want to have that crate back? me: SURE!.


so, i hacked out all what i had done (basically the AX84 SE high-octane) and decided to start fresh. a fenderish front end with a cold biased first stage, the PR tone stack, and a driver/CF to push the big bottle. sounds much better than it did, but the cabinet is just too small for a 12" to sound decent - i play it through a 12" JBL K120 in a larger cabinet and it sounds really good. nothing to write home about, but very respectable.

thinking about chopping it to turn it into a head. i'll post some pics later.
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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 12:09:04 am »
2nd shot

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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 12:22:05 pm »
Very nice P2P work, the layout is great!
Went Class C for efficiency

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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 01:40:36 pm »
thanks!


--pete

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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 02:18:16 pm »
Very nice looking work. A rags to riches story!

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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2017, 04:24:27 pm »
> i picked up a crate 1D sand-state amp from the 80's

According to eBay, you should put the sand back in this rare/very-rare collectable and sell it for all it's worth. ($110-$400 asked.... one sold at $37)

"This is a rare Crate solid-state amplifier, one of the first ones they ever made in the late 70s. This rare wooden crate design only lasted a few years so they're hard to find."
"This "VERY RARE" collectible, Crate 1D Combo Guitar Amp by SLM Electronics of St. Louis, MO is Crate's 1st built-in distortion amp! (Very rarely available for sale!!!!)"


Awful nice work you did inside.

If they hadn't used that stupid "crate" construction it would almost be big enough for a Twelve's balls. But there's 1.5 inches off all around due to "crate" styling.

I did rather like the "crate", as a folly, and would lean to a smaller speaker rather than beheading it.
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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2017, 05:30:52 pm »
> i picked up a crate 1D sand-state amp from the 80'sp

According to eBay, you should put the sand back in this rare/very-rare collectable and sell it for all it's worth. ($110-$400 asked.... one sold at $37)

"This is a rare Crate solid-state amplifier, one of the first ones they ever made in the late 70s. This rare wooden crate design only lasted a few years so they're hard to find."
"This "VERY RARE" collectible, Crate 1D Combo Guitar Amp by SLM Electronics of St. Louis, MO is Crate's 1st built-in distortion amp! (Very rarely available for sale!!!!)"


meh! not that rare and if they were, not that highly regarded. peavey bandit sounded better by a magnitude than anything crate made in that era. i saved the guts with the wiring intact. have no idea why, but probably had more to do with the fact i didn't want to throw any lead in our landfill.

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Awful nice work you did inside.

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If they hadn't used that stupid "crate" construction it would almost be big enough for a Twelve's balls. But there's 1.5 inches off all around due to "crate" styling.
I did rather like the "crate", as a folly, and would lean to a smaller speaker rather than beheading it.

i too like the styling and the recycled pallets for a amp was clever. i too was thinking a new baffle - perhaps with a 10" alnico stuffed in it just might do it some justice, it's just too dang "tinny" sounding with any 12" i stuff in it. sounds a whole lot better with a single 12" external in proper size cabinet - in this case a JBL k120.   

music store in the small town i lived in south texas used to sell crate and another new off-brand i'd never heard of at the time called "music man". "music what?" what a dumb name i thought...then a friend/salesman stated that it was "leo's" new company: respect from then on. he went on to tell me they were also selling G&L guitars and the history there. back on track - playing the crate back then was not impressive and still aren't no matter how "rare" it is, that generation of crate SS amps sound just awful.

--pete

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Re: redux of a redux.
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 05:38:20 pm »
Very nice looking work. A rags to riches story!
thanks!


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