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Offline Bugman3183

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Filament transformer
« on: April 13, 2018, 09:58:57 am »
Good morning fellas.   Probably a simple question but I've never dealt with this type of situation before.   Had a little misfortune recently where my son knocked an amp off the table (chassis only) and now after some testing I'm seeing that the heaters are only running at 3.9v.  Found a reasonably priced 12.6v transformer that I'd like to use for heaters only, center tapped and rated for 4a. And wondered if this would work.   Also, not certain on how I would have to wire this up.  Apologies if this has been covered before.   Thanks.
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2018, 10:29:32 am »
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now after some testing I'm seeing that the heaters are only running at 3.9v
Tell us exactly where each meter probe is connected when you measure 3.9v.
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2018, 11:00:16 am »
From pin 2 to 7 on 6v6's and  4 to pin 9 in the preamp tubes.   What prompted me to test, is that I couldn't tell the preamp tubes were glowing at all.
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 11:30:35 am »
That 12.6v CT will work. Just tape off one of the leads. You will need to use a couple 100Ω resistors to create an artificial CT if you don't already have an artificial CT.
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 12:15:23 pm »
Transformer has a center tap.  So if I'm understanding you correctly,  you're saying tape off one of the leads and connect the the other lead to either the 4 or 9 pin of preamp tubes and ground the center tap ?
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2018, 06:56:27 pm »
If its a push pull amp with 6 volt output tubes and 12A_7 preamp tubes, see the attachments for options
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 08:14:50 pm »
Tubewell's way works but requires rewiring all the tube sockets.


sluckey means to use 1/2 the 12.6V CT tranny.  Tape off one of the outer leads.  Use only the CT & the other outer lead as sluckey says.






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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2018, 10:08:20 pm »
You did make sure there's not just a broken solder joint on one of your sockets? And did you measure with all the tubes pulled?
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2018, 12:46:44 am »
I did check for a bad solder joint and reflowed them just to be sure, but did not check the Voltages unloaded.  Will do that when I get a chance.   Thanks for the links for the 6.3v transformers.   All of the ones I saw when I initially searched were much more expensive for some reason.   
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Re: Filament transformer
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2018, 02:36:30 am »
You need to know the total amperage needed. 12.6 at 4amps compared to 6.3 v at 3 amps. Get what your tubesmneed but if You already have  the 12.6 it is quite better iron.

 


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