Welcome To the Hoffman Amplifiers Forum

September 07, 2025, 11:57:52 am
guest image
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
-User Name
-Password



Hoffman Amps Forum image Author Topic: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall  (Read 9834 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« on: May 17, 2018, 03:49:11 pm »
I unboxed a new transformer, well never used lets say. Checking it out it is a copy from Heybour of the Dagnall C1996 (the small one as it is iften referred to).  Traditional iron for 4, El34 tubes.


Dagnall C1998 38x38mm on EI M6 core:
- 16-0 ohm secondary (parallel): 120 turns x 0.76mm AWG21
- primary: 2 x 620 turns on eight layers x 0.45mm AWG26
- 8-16 ohm secondary: 35 turns x 1.18mm AWG18
- 4-8 ohm secondary: 25 turns x 1.18mm AWG18
- 0-4 ohm secondary: 60 turns x 1.60mm AWG15


Total weight is exactly 5lbs.  Now I do not need to build a Super Lead, However this is the one to use for such and adventure.


So it is 1.7KΩ, multitap, 4-8-16Ω.  Since it seems impossible to find out the frequency response, but seems as if used in a lower wattage situation.  Just cannot think of how to use a single pair except simply use EL34 and double the load on the secondaries, but even then it still needs to be loud.


So I am going to ask if anyone has ever built a tube Vocal amp and it is possible to build a mono vocal amp that would not distort using a guitar Output Transformer.


Or any ideas for a use.  I know I can sell it and would if it were not what I know it is.  Right now seems everyone is selling exact NOS copies for $50.

Offline jjasilli

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 6731
  • Took the power supply test. . . got a B+
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 04:02:49 pm »
Should work for human voice.  You'll need some type of tweeter or horn to get above 4000 Hz or so.

Fundamentals and Harmonics of Human Voice Frequency Range.  A Female voice frequency range covers fairly upto 350 Hz to 17KHz.Its fundamental frequency is 350Hz to 3KHz and Harmonics is 3KHz to 17KHz.  Male voice covers a Frequency range of 100Hz to 8KHz.The fundamental is 100Hz to 900Hz and Harmonics is 900Hz to 8KHz.  http://www.seaindia.in/blog/human-voice-frequency-range/

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2018, 04:13:44 pm »
I certainly have some horns, a few.  I have a love for Altec horns.  Thanks for the info.

Offline tubeswell

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 4202
  • He who dies with the most tubes... wins
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 04:45:04 am »
Well I was going to say 1959 Superlead100...
A bus stops at a bus station. A train stops at a train station. On my desk, I have a work station.

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2018, 10:15:01 am »
Well I was going to say 1959 Superlead100...
I still have one and use it only at home.  Great sounding for sure, but if I didn't have a cabinet room I couldn't stand turning it up.  They really are loud and I can assure you they can shred a 4 x 12 Greenback loaded cabinet.  I have not seen one on any stage now for a long time.  Seems the newer 100 watt crowd is liking the PRS models, but I have not even tried one since I have no idea what to do with a 100 watt amp except use it to play bass.

Offline shooter

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 11015
  • Karma Loves haters
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2018, 10:51:55 am »
Can't help with vocal stuff but I have found I really like using "big iron" in small wattage amps, my last PP used Iron for a Marshall 100 type in a 25W-ish, In xSE's I try and double the "required iron".  Seems to make everything tight, crisp, less tonal changes due to iron saturation and things too deep for me  :laugh:
Went Class C for efficiency

Offline 66Strat

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 603
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2018, 11:50:00 am »
Using a 16 ohm load in the 8 ohm tap might work pretty good for four EL34s in Parallel Push/Pull Triode mode. Should make around 30 clean watts for a monophonic hifi amp.
Regards,
JT

Offline jojokeo

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2985
  • Eddie and my zebrawood V in Dave's basement '77
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2018, 02:10:42 pm »
but I have not even tried one since I have no idea what to do with a 100 watt amp except use it to play bass.
Sell it to Jimbo and instead of playing from another room IN the house, he'll be able to play while OUTSIDE the house (or when he's in the outhouse)? And then we'll start calling him Ritchie300!???  :laugh:

We all really know why he likes to say that he plays...
« Last Edit: May 24, 2018, 02:36:51 pm by jojokeo »
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

Offline Ritchie200

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3485
  • Smokin' 88's!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2018, 02:32:04 pm »
Haha funny man.....

I think Ed is just disappointed that since Ricky Skaggs and Vince Gill aren't using a Marshall stack, he cant keep pretending he's the "rocker" he keeps telling us he is.  :dontknow:  Of course I've never seen any evidence to back up those claims so....

Jim :icon_biggrin:

My religion? I'm a Cathode Follower!
Can we have everything louder than everything else?

Offline jojokeo

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2985
  • Eddie and my zebrawood V in Dave's basement '77
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2018, 02:38:30 pm »
ED! Don't do it!!!
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2018, 02:57:49 pm »
Using a 16 ohm load in the 8 ohm tap might work pretty good for four EL34s in Parallel Push/Pull Triode mode. Should make around 30 clean watts for a monophonic hifi amp.
This is sort of the direction I was thinking.


There is a reason I asked the question here as opposed to a HiFi forum.  I have seen someone ask about using a guitar amp transformer before and the feedback is not kind.

Offline jojokeo

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2985
  • Eddie and my zebrawood V in Dave's basement '77
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2018, 03:58:41 pm »
That's cheatin' using a capo!  :cussing:
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

Offline 66Strat

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 603
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2018, 04:31:53 pm »
Using a 16 ohm load in the 8 ohm tap might work pretty good for four EL34s in Parallel Push/Pull Triode mode. Should make around 30 clean watts for a monophonic hifi amp.
This is sort of the direction I was thinking.


There is a reason I asked the question here as opposed to a HiFi forum.  I have seen someone ask about using a guitar amp transformer before and the feedback is not kind.


Yeah. I've seen the same thing. People trashing transformers because of a couple of wiggles they see on a scope that they can't hear with their ears. I think it's a worthwhile project. Maybe cobble together a Karlsonator cabinet with one of the Eminence coaxial drivers to go with it.
Regards,
JT

Offline jjasilli

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 6731
  • Took the power supply test. . . got a B+
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2018, 04:40:41 pm »
Ed, I assumed you meant to use this OT for a PA amp geared to human voice for which I think it will be at least adequate.  For hi-fi it could be used and will work, in the sense of operate.  Whether or not it will have pleasing hi-fi qualities is unknown -- in terms of overall frequency response & tonal quality for the reproduction of music.


Some thoughts are expressed here:  https://www.google.com/search?q=guitar+amp+output+transformer+vs+hi-fi&oq=guitar+amp+output+transformer+vs+hi-fi&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.18749j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Offline Ritchie200

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3485
  • Smokin' 88's!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2018, 06:13:03 pm »

And just incase you need a whippin, here is a girl to do it.

And incase you did not see that, look at this.


Ed,

You know why she is so good?  Look at the albums on the floor.  Standing up is Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath.  In the rack showing at the end is Black Sabbath Vol. 4.  Unlike you, she had a proper upbringing with good people guiding her along the way.

Now how is THAT for a backhanded insult that only you and I would know the meaning of...

Jimbob ;0)

My religion? I'm a Cathode Follower!
Can we have everything louder than everything else?

Offline 66Strat

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 603
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2018, 07:29:09 pm »

And just incase you need a whippin, here is a girl to do it.

And incase you did not see that, look at this.


Ed,

You know why she is so good?  Look at the albums on the floor.  Standing up is Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath.  In the rack showing at the end is Black Sabbath Vol. 4.  Unlike you, she had a proper upbringing with good people guiding her along the way.

Now how is THAT for a backhanded insult that only you and I would know the meaning of...

Jimbob ;0)

Not Ed, but as to looking at BS albums, standing in a rack, being the source of her talent, well I couldn't say.:dontknow: But, I can say that she is a flat picker for sure, that sounds a lot like Emmylou Harris.:headbang: Not a bad place to be, IMHO.:m17
Regards,
JT

Offline jjasilli

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 6731
  • Took the power supply test. . . got a B+
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2018, 09:35:07 pm »
When I see & hear that crosspickin' I'm channeling Doc Watson.

Offline 66Strat

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 603
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2018, 09:39:35 pm »
When I see & hear that crosspickin' I'm channeling Doc Watson.

I've never heard Doc Watson sing like that. Must be a yanny laurel kinda thang.  :l2:
Regards,
JT

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2018, 06:30:27 am »

And just incase you need a whippin, here is a girl to do it.

And incase you did not see that, look at this.


Ed,

You know why she is so good?  Look at the albums on the floor.  Standing up is Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath.  In the rack showing at the end is Black Sabbath Vol. 4.  Unlike you, she had a proper upbringing with good people guiding her along the way.

Now how is THAT for a backhanded insult that only you and I would know the meaning of...

Jimbob ;0)
yea that is why. She picks it up from Tony.  :help:


Why shouldn't someone have Sabbath albums and Bill monroe posters.

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2018, 06:46:44 am »

And just incase you need a whippin, here is a girl to do it.

And incase you did not see that, look at this.


Ed,

You know why she is so good?  Look at the albums on the floor.  Standing up is Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath.  In the rack showing at the end is Black Sabbath Vol. 4.  Unlike you, she had a proper upbringing with good people guiding her along the way.

Now how is THAT for a backhanded insult that only you and I would know the meaning of...

Jimbob ;0)
Not very cleaver insult to say I was brughtt up playing jerry reed music, but if you think so it speaks volumes to your music understanding. If you really believe Tony Iommi has more influence on Molly than Tony Rice I just cannot  continue  debate simply because it would not be fair. Sort of like when the old man is winded and you let him think he is still as tough as he WAS. ROCK is DEAD! No one uses a Major anymore and more hit songs have been recorded with a champ than any marshall.


You have a child that prefers rap. What happened to your influence?


Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2018, 06:55:25 am »
That's cheatin' using a capo!  :cussing:
yes Tim Pierce recommends using one and we both know he has a way to go before he becomes a good player. Please try harder if you intend an insult. If you have an insult of this girls playing, your friend Troy Grady was certainly blown away with this technique and he cannot do it. He can play 3 strings I one pattern.


Weird, none of the fast rock players has he ever had problems with, I guess you are right, it must .be the capo. :sad2:

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2018, 07:01:49 am »
When I see & hear that crosspickin' I'm channeling Doc Watson.
He was the beginning he used the E form a lot and played a lot of blues influenced along with the corresponding style. Today, no one uses their thumb and fingers, but all those considered the Greats in this style did. Most used pick and fingers, but I bet you know this.


Some if these other guys play for ego and some play for the music.

Offline jjasilli

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 6731
  • Took the power supply test. . . got a B+
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2018, 11:19:24 am »
Mock insults are a form of flattery.  You've got to get into the groove, and peak behind the curtain, especially when you're getting double-teamed by jojo & ritchie200.  So for this reply I'll go over to the dark side to note that, good golly, Ms. Molly couldn't reach those notes with her tiny hands @ the first fret, and can only do it at the middle frets 'cause she made a deal with the Devil as slyly revealed by the presence of Black Sabbath.  Beware!!!

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2018, 12:36:21 pm »
Mock insults are a form of flattery.  You've got to get into the groove, and peak behind the curtain, especially when you're getting double-teamed by jojo & ritchie200.  So for this reply I'll go over to the dark side to note that, good golly, Ms. Molly couldn't reach those notes with her tiny hands @ the first fret, and can only do it at the middle frets 'cause she made a deal with the Devil as slyly revealed by the presence of Black Sabbath.  Beware!!!
I have always laughed about Sabbath.  Devil stuff is just Geezer Butler writing about horror stories mixed with Ozzy needs a gig and overuse of cocaine.


I know I was double teamed.  Just shows that even both are really lacking since neither remember things they have written in the past.  Molly Tuttle=Robert Johnson, that is funny.  I'll bet she doesn't get killed having sex in a gravel parking lot.


But what I do not understand is why you guys think the albums hers?  This is part of that youtube guy Troy Grady, the one who went to Yale and explains how all the fast players are able to play as they do.  Then he learns and shows you.  Check out him trying Andy Wood and Molly Tuttle, the last 2 people he had on.


He cannot do it, but I am very close.  JJ, thanks for the boxes, Jojo, thanks for the headsup this weekend and Jimbob, thanks for being a Buttpirate.  You made my day you old fart.

Offline jojokeo

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2985
  • Eddie and my zebrawood V in Dave's basement '77
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2018, 01:32:21 am »
Mock insults are a form of flattery.  You've got to get into the groove, and peak behind the curtain, especially when you're getting double-teamed by jojo & ritchie200.

He cannot do it, but I am very close.  JJ, thanks for the boxes, Jojo, thanks for the headsup this weekend and Jimbob, thanks for being a Buttpirate.  You made my day you old fart.
We were just trying to coax you outta your rabbit hole but maybe picked a bad time before the holiday? Or maybe you were practicing that fancy string jumping magic using your capo not one to let a girl show you how it's done?  :laugh:

Here's a couple pics from the weekend in San Diego. I'm sure Brad will get hungry then wanna grab his slide and harmonica?
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2018, 08:14:07 am »
Jojo, not really a bad so to speak, just limited time.  No, I do not spend over 10 minutes a day on something new, but I spend 10 minutes EVERY DAY.  If you cannot find 10 minutes a day to play 6 strings and you are alive and well, then you are satisfied with the level you play.  That is cool, but I have never really been satisfied.  No sooner than I hear something new to me where someone is doing something that seems extremely difficult, well I have to find out just how hard it is.


Of course that is ony 1 hour and 10 minutes a week.  I have found doing any more time on something new usually never really makes it into my playing style.  This would be a great topic really, but for another place on the forum.


The reason is if I learn a new thing and spend 2 days learning it, then move on within a few more days I can no longer do it.  For those new neurological connections we make learning create attachements EACH time we approach something new.  This is that muscle memory thing every geetar teacher speaks of.  So if day 1 creates 2200 neuroligical connections and half are lost, the next day the first 1100 get stronger and the lost ones return and some strengthen as well, so we learn more.  The only problem is if we do not continue the process, it gets replaced.  For instance, in 1978.  So at 10 years of playing I learned some of Eddies 2 handed arpegios with Ice Cream Man being my favorite and was able to play the song well up into the mid 90's until the completion of the Seattle distruction of rock.  I give Alice in Chains and STP a pass, but not that climbing Pearl Jammin Crash Test Dummy sounding Eddie Vetter.  What I am saying is I can still play all of the song, but I have to take about 3 days to get it back under my fingers and this happens a few times a year because I am not playing it 1 or 2 times a week.


Very similar to your phone number.  Before cell phones, everyone could tell you all their phone numbers, Work, Home, Mothers, Father, Mother Rapers and Father Rapers all on the group W bench.


Since we no longer have to remember or practice this, tell me the phone number to you favorite music store without looking it up.  From my youth, Attinas Music Store-366-9064.  No 10 digit dialing and actuallyif you were in the 366 area (I was) all you called was 9064 with your rotary phone dial.


Memorial Day weekend was busy.  First weekend in the Smokey Mountains where everyone comes outside.


Certainly it is not that Molly is a girl, Carol Kaye IMO,(i do not care what anyone else things on the topic) so IMO, Carol has proven herself to be the top recognizable bass player who ever did session work.  Everyone has their favorite.  I do not try to play Bass better than her or Jazz guitar better than her, but you can bet I studied how she came up with those Bass lines.

Offline jojokeo

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2985
  • Eddie and my zebrawood V in Dave's basement '77
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2018, 11:53:10 am »
Lots to reply on but have limited time myself heading out of the office. I think we all know exactly what you're saying. But if I warm up the amps & gear and try to spend only 10 minutes? Forgettaboutit! I'm there for a while and having fun... always! Just like time with the wifey  :icon_biggrin:

Our minds aka personal hard drives can remember a LOT - whether short term or long term memory? Your mileage may vary?! Ha! I feel the same way when I start playing acoustic Jim Croce, James Taylor, Elton, Beatles, even John Denver, etc... :w2:

My numbers always to be remembered include the combo lock on the garage door of the house I grew up in, phone number, etc. and many many others including my favorite pizza joint for pick-up. I have CRS when it comes to lyrics and movie titles, but I can remember numbers and melodies like yesterday. And I'm not even left handed - always being in my "right mind".  :laugh:
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.

Offline Ritchie200

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3485
  • Smokin' 88's!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2018, 08:05:30 pm »
10 minute rule: wise words.  I need to do that, or at the very least pick up the uke.  As Jojo will vouch, I am running ragged.  If I do sneak away and play it only puts me further behind on my other "real" work.  That pays the bills other work.  I recorded some stuff for Jojo the other day.  One was Long Misty Days.  I haven't played that song in 35-40 years.  Did I screw it up?  Yup!  But not too bad.  I did remember the melody, chords, and lead.  A couple of months ago I was playing along to a concert video with songs I have never played before.  My daughter was like, "How do you do that?!?!"  That's how I learned.  All by ear.  A couple of verses and I was there.  Again, that muscle/brain memory thing.


I cant remember names to save my life and the "experts" say it's because deep down I dont care.  I dont believe that.  If it has to do with Ed, I don't care.  I can remember intimate details of events, concerts, silly music trivia.  It's almost like the name thing is in another file and it's not real big! 


As far as the flat picking thing.  I equate that and most of the other insipid tele inspired quacking to Malmsteen.  "Hey, that's pretty cool!"  Two minutes later, "Hey, that was the same run..."  Four minutes later, "Hey, let's go up to the lobby......"


Ritchie was vilified for saying Joe Satch was too clinical and predictable.  Ritchie has said many times that he thinks Joe is a wonderful guitar player.  What people failed to read was the REST of what he said.  Ritchie said that he likes unpredictable music.  He said Jimi was always reaching for that one-more-note.  It didnt always work, but it sure made things exciting.  THAT'S what he was telling Joe to do.  I think of it as more of a old soul giving advice to the kid, not dissing him.


Ed, you have never played Van Halen.  Prove me wrong Mr. Flatt n Scruggs...(or is it Nap n Scruffy?)  Or will the surh not allow you to play such an advanced piece?  Reach for that one-more-note son!


Jim, I AM your daddy
« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 09:56:44 pm by Ritchie200 »

My religion? I'm a Cathode Follower!
Can we have everything louder than everything else?

Offline shooter

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 11015
  • Karma Loves haters
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2018, 08:42:12 pm »
Quote
that muscle/brain memory thing.
I evolved somewhat outta phase from musicians, muscle/brain memory for me, (and prayer :laugh:) was to just throw my hand up and know without a doubt I'd stick it long enough to get a foot planted and walla 3 more feet up the face.  When I taught youth climbing they got just as cranky as a music student because they had to keep doing it over and over..... :icon_biggrin:
Went Class C for efficiency

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2018, 03:02:04 pm »
10 minute rule: wise words.  I need to do that, or at the very least pick up the uke.  As Jojo will vouch, I am running ragged.  If I do sneak away and play it only puts me further behind on my other "real" work.  That pays the bills other work.  I recorded some stuff for Jojo the other day.  One was Long Misty Days.  I haven't played that song in 35-40 years.  Did I screw it up?  Yup!  But not too bad.  I did remember the melody, chords, and lead.  A couple of months ago I was playing along to a concert video with songs I have never played before.  My daughter was like, "How do you do that?!?!"  That's how I learned.  All by ear.  A couple of verses and I was there.  Again, that muscle/brain memory thing.


I cant remember names to save my life and the "experts" say it's because deep down I dont care.  I dont believe that.  If it has to do with Ed, I don't care.  I can remember intimate details of events, concerts, silly music trivia.  It's almost like the name thing is in another file and it's not real big! 


As far as the flat picking thing.  I equate that and most of the other insipid tele inspired quacking to Malmsteen.  "Hey, that's pretty cool!"  Two minutes later, "Hey, that was the same run..."  Four minutes later, "Hey, let's go up to the lobby......"


Ritchie was vilified for saying Joe Satch was too clinical and predictable.  Ritchie has said many times that he thinks Joe is a wonderful guitar player.  What people failed to read was the REST of what he said.  Ritchie said that he likes unpredictable music.  He said Jimi was always reaching for that one-more-note.  It didnt always work, but it sure made things exciting.  THAT'S what he was telling Joe to do.  I think of it as more of a old soul giving advice to the kid, not dissing him.


Ed, you have never played Van Halen.  Prove me wrong Mr. Flatt n Scruggs...(or is it Nap n Scruffy?)  Or will the surh not allow you to play such an advanced piece?  Reach for that one-more-note son!


Jim, I AM your daddy
ok daddy, I believe I can play CMajor to d major to dm7 hammer on to em7. Then every other time 6 string slide with finger from fret 15 to open e. Runnin with the devil. A triad slide to pos 2 and 3 and back to one.chorus.


Go do it, I am in a restaurant but I bet it is correct. Once you get this I will give you the solo.
From memory, but I will tab it it if you need it or musical notation your choice.
Blackmore also said to push even live, mistakes make you better.


I have nothing to prove. I am still active and playing tonight.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 03:04:50 pm by Ed_Chambley »

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2018, 03:45:24 pm »
Jim, I forgot to tel you. I now own 4 strats and this is more of any type I have ever owned. I have 3 with Ridgewood and one maple. All have vintage 6 bolt and single coils. 2 are ash and 2 alder.


These are all Fenders. Sure I have Suhr and you sure reference it a lot. I have a guitar given to me by my father and it is not your thing either. A Gibson Lea Paul 1969 2 pup black beauty with binding galore. 10 of 10.


And a es335. Few more as well. I do not understand your point. Are you saying there should only be 1 guitar? Then why do you have others?




Offline Ritchie200

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3485
  • Smokin' 88's!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2018, 05:21:03 pm »
Geez Ed, another backhanded beat down!  You know I don't read music and to tell you the truth I've never tried to read tabs!  If anyone is left still reading this, Ed acts all nice but deep down he is EVIL!!!

If you have to read the notes or sit on a stool with a music stand wearing glasses (uhhemmm), when you play out, you are DEFINATELY not pushing it.

And Ed, you have everything to prove to me!  I've already laid out my limited ability for you hockey pucks to fillet.  We have yet to hear from you???  If you are playing out, have someone shoot a video.  By the way, "playing out" does not mean moving your amp from the bedroom to the basement and your cats do not count as paying customers....

Yer pal,
Jimbob

My religion? I'm a Cathode Follower!
Can we have everything louder than everything else?

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2018, 06:03:30 pm »
Hi Ed, Not sure what this topic is about.......
So I have one of those OT's to use in this amp.
http://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=18458.msg188584#msg188584
Just got to find the time to do it. :headbang:

Offline Ritchie200

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3485
  • Smokin' 88's!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2018, 09:53:35 pm »
 :l2:

Jim

My religion? I'm a Cathode Follower!
Can we have everything louder than everything else?

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2018, 04:53:53 am »
Hi Ed, Not sure what this topic is about.......
So I have one of those OT's to use in this amp.
http://el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=18458.msg188584#msg188584
Just got to find the time to do it. :headbang:
I have one of these OT.  I simply do not make another 100 watt amps, I am interested in something we tried out and wanted to see if I could replicate it. Simply a single mono vocal amp to add. Tube amps have a very nice vocal sound.


Of course Jim and Joe wanted to chime in. Is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt.

I do not care and they are all in fun. JJ linked and gave me the scoop. I have actually been doing a bit of HIHI tube for myself. Just like you I like the old stuff.

I have it set up on a board connected Triode with a 6sl7 as a ltpi, but the gain is not to my liking, but it is very close.

To cut this story short, I belong to a HIFI forum and if you ask a question about using a Guitar OT on HIFI, they will become as insulting a Jim, just they would mean it. My thought were confirmed and using the OT will give easy 30 watts in Triode clean.  I have a altec 413 and some tube microphones. I believe this really sounds nice for female vocals.

Basically messing around. If it works out very well, I plan to build a better version in stereo.

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2018, 05:20:15 am »
Geez Ed, another backhanded beat down!  You know I don't read music and to tell you the truth I've never tried to read tabs!  If anyone is left still reading this, Ed acts all nice but deep down he is EVIL!!!

If you have to read the notes or sit on a stool with a music stand wearing glasses (uhhemmm), when you play out, you are DEFINATELY not pushing it.

And Ed, you have everything to prove to me!  I've already laid out my limited ability for you hockey pucks to fillet.  We have yet to hear from you???  If you are playing out, have someone shoot a video.  By the way, "playing out" does not mean moving your amp from the bedroom to the basement and your cats do not count as paying customers....

Yer pal,
Jimbob
you have heard me play hard rock and you have heard me on vocals. You said I had good pipes, and I said I had a few good pipes. :laugh:


You have heard me shred and play tastefully. It is not hard to play rock, I am sorry to say, but it is true.


Jim,, I do not call it playing out like you do you have to take your major outside to get it the zone. That is playing out. What I do is ignore and polish Suhr wooden planks.


The deal is, if you think you can get your rock chops together and put together a band, you will not play any paying gigs, but I guess you could call playing in the garage as playing out if the door is open. Make sure you have your national pedal so you can do the riding the storm out intro.


And finally, you heard me play Travis style and wrote you WISHED you could play like that and I know, weren't just nice. I consoled you by writing that if you practiced the style you could do it. You can because you good enough. Go look in the mirror and say dang it, I am smart, dedicated, my mother thinks I am good looking, and I know I can do it.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 05:22:37 am by Ed_Chambley »

Offline Ed_Chambley

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Nothing is too old.
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: What can you use a 100 Watt Dagnall
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2018, 06:07:09 am »
Lots to reply on but have limited time myself heading out of the office. I think we all know exactly what you're saying. But if I warm up the amps & gear and try to spend only 10 minutes? Forgettaboutit! I'm there for a while and having fun... always! Just like time with the wifey  :icon_biggrin:

Our minds aka personal hard drives can remember a LOT - whether short term or long term memory? Your mileage may vary?! Ha! I feel the same way when I start playing acoustic Jim Croce, James Taylor, Elton, Beatles, even John Denver, etc... :w2:

My numbers always to be remembered include the combo lock on the garage door of the house I grew up in, phone number, etc. and many many others including my favorite pizza joint for pick-up. I have CRS when it comes to lyrics and movie titles, but I can remember numbers and melodies like yesterday. And I'm not even left handed - always being in my "right mind".  :laugh:
now I wrote 10 minutes, but I meant dedicated to something new. Then go ahead and play whatever. Just 10 minutes of 1 thing. I just got scale runs playing down down up at 220 bpm. Starting outside outside inside, inside inside out.


I know you have a diverse background and understand style comes from the pick hand. Order of inversions etc. If you decide to use a capo and play Tumbling Dice correctly, get the new Shubb with the roller. Best electric capo for keeping tuning.


On acoustic there is only one. Paige makes  capo with a button release.

 


Choose a link from the
Hoffman Amplifiers parts catalog
Mobile Device
Catalog Link
Yard Sale
Discontinued
Misc. Hardware
What's New Board Building
 Parts
Amp trim
Handles
Lamps
Diodes
Hoffman Turret
 Boards
Channel
Switching
Resistors Fender Eyelet
 Boards
Screws/Nuts
Washers
Jacks/Plugs
Connectors
Misc Eyelet
Boards
Tools
Capacitors Custom Boards
Tubes
Valves
Pots
Knobs
Fuses/Cords Chassis
Tube
Sockets
Switches Wire
Cable


Handy Links
Tube Amp Library
Tube Amp
Schematics library
Design a custom Eyelet or
Turret Board
DIY Layout Creator
File analyzer program
DIY Layout Creator
File library
Transformer Wiring
Diagrams
Hoffmanamps
Facebook page
Hoffman Amplifiers
Discount Program