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Offline ac427v

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Re: Fizzy Distortion in Background of new Push Pull 6V6 Build
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2020, 08:20:30 pm »
The Fender Harvard has a similar phase inverter and preceding driver stage. Leo did it like this:

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Re: Fizzy Distortion in Background of new Push Pull 6V6 Build
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2020, 08:32:09 pm »
I tinkered with the feedback some and ended up pulling it back out. It sounded fine as I wired it, couldn't tell you why. Tried it again at V2A and V1B and it sounded bad at either point and would definitely start oscillating at V2A at some point I didn't bother measuring. It didn't sound good there anyway. At this point, I decided I needed to move the output transformer to the top of the chassis because I hated the way it looked with all the empty space under the cage. One I started it back up—motorboating like crazy, so I just gave up on it. It sounds great without it.

The big news from today was that I figured out why it seemed like I had so many microphonic 12AX7s... I had a bad .047 Mallory 150 cap in the tone circuit. I kept tapping joints and parts around V1 and hearing the typical plink racket and almost tried swapping the tube socket until I decided to spread out to the tone controls. Tapping that cap made a hellacious noise. Crazy. Swapped it out and totally fine there now.

Also decided that since I ditched the NFB I'd try fiddling with the tone circuit a little (why waste a nice hole ready for a switch?). The amp is brighter, in general, and pretty scooped at mid-ish tone settings so playing with some parts I had on hand, and looking at the tone stack calc, I clipped in a couple low value caps in parallel with the 250pf on the treble control and settled on 750pf for a total of 1000pf as a switchable option. This very noticeably shifts the midrange dip backwards, like 2-300hz vs. somewhere closer to 1k, and gives a little more nasally tone that's really nice at higher gain settings. For cleaner stuff, left out is best still. Nice flavor option I think. Maybe I'll change my mind tomorrow. I really need to stop tinkering.

Anyone see anything glaringly terrible with this version of the schematic?
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Re: Fizzy Distortion in Background of new Push Pull 6V6 Build
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2020, 02:24:54 am »
The cathodyne looks a little unusual, with the grid being positive biased, so it may a drawing error.
ie R17 would normally be referenced to 0V, rather than the cathode.
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Re: Fizzy Distortion in Background of new Push Pull 6V6 Build
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2020, 10:25:27 am »
Yep, this is a drawing mistake for sure. Thanks for catching! Updated the schem above.

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Re: Fizzy Distortion in Background of new Push Pull 6V6 Build
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2020, 12:28:00 pm »
Look for the paul ruby mod.  That is 2 diodes and 2 zeners on the phase inverter. Easy.. and probably your problem is gone! Did the job on both my 18Watt amps
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