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Offline pc1093

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using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« on: December 19, 2021, 11:39:55 pm »
Hi all,
I would want to use a 5Z4 as a rectifier.

1. Does the first  Reservoir Capacitor need to change 4.7uF/450V ?
2. need I add a resistor before the chock? how much is it?
3. Does any other resistor value need to change?
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Re: using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2021, 12:24:58 am »
Someone much more knowledgeable will chime in but......

Those cap values arent common to tube rectification.....I would guess the first would be 47uf our something close.....
And you will need a transformer with a 5v winding to run the 5Z4....

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Re: using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2021, 01:44:05 am »
Someone much more knowledgeable will chime in but......

Those cap values arent common to tube rectification.....I would guess the first would be 47uf our something close.....
And you will need a transformer with a 5v winding to run the 5Z4....

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_5z4.html

I find that the first Reservoir Capacitor max is 40uF.
I have another 5V transformer to supply the heater.

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Re: using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2021, 01:49:50 am »
Someone much more knowledgeable will chime in but......

Those cap values arent common to tube rectification.....I would guess the first would be 47uf our something close.....
And you will need a transformer with a 5v winding to run the 5Z4....

https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_5z4.html

I find that the first Reservoir Capacitor max is 40uF.
I have another 5V transformer to supply the heater.
Is there a reason you want a 5v rectifier? Why not a 6v rectifier and save the space.

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Re: using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2021, 07:13:02 am »
I would want to use a 5Z4 as a rectifier.
Why? What do you expect to gain? I see zero benefits of using a tube rectifier in a tube preamp.
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

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Re: using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2021, 10:52:09 pm »
I would want to use a 5Z4 as a rectifier.
Why? What do you expect to gain? I see zero benefits of using a tube rectifier in a tube preamp.
I just find a tube rectifier easy to buy.
now I find 6X4/6X5 more suitable for this.

If I use 6X5, how can i change the first Reservoir Capacitor?
For the B+ supply need 150V, what value of the resistor before 0D3 need?

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Re: using tube Rectifier (5Z4) instead of diodes
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2021, 07:06:45 am »
If I use 6X5, how can i change the first Reservoir Capacitor?
For the B+ supply need 150V, what value of the resistor before 0D3 need?
The tube chart you posted said to use a 32µF reservoir cap. I would also change the other filter caps to 32µF.

A 10K resistor should work fine for the OD3, although a single 10K 10W would be sufficient. The resistor has to drop 210V so it will actually dissipate 4.41 watts.
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

 


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