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Trace Elliot GP12X Preamp hum
« on: February 13, 2024, 04:51:07 pm »
Well, I have another TE product that is experiencing 60cycle hum through all of the outputs (headphones, XLR, 1/4" output jacks). I sent the schematic to Doug's library: trace_elliot_GP12X_series6_preamp.Looks like someone already tried to repair this as you can see the cable anchors have been removed and replaced. Also looks like new e-caps also. Tried shielding the power transformer with no affect on the hum. The ground lift switch does not reduce the hum also. When I plugged this into a power amp, the hum was very loud until I lifted the ground in the preamp. It was still humming after lifting  the ground but not as much. Any other ideas? This is the 3rd TE amp/preamp I have come across that has excessive hum. These amps are at least 30 years old and was wondering if age has anything to do with this issue.

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Re: Trace Elliot GP12X Preamp hum
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2024, 05:51:55 pm »
 :laugh:
you're the expert now....


these are best in RF but i've used them to "narrow down" my search area in audio
use a phone app to determine what freq the hum 60hz, 120, 400....
ground your scope to the amp chassis
set the scope to measure your found frequency (PT = 1/F) (I think:)
walk the probe over the amp, just above the "hole where all the parts are"
the loop is in the horizontal plane (you can look through the loops hole n see electronics below:)
if you get a "lock" or "hot-spot", circle that area with probe rotated ~~20 off horizontal, "facing" the hot-spot


whether that helps or not is sketchy, learning how to sniff signals, might come in handy
Went Class C for efficiency

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Re: Trace Elliot GP12X Preamp hum
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2024, 06:01:01 pm »
Sold my Tektronix scope a few months ago but am thinking of getting this: https://www.amazon.com/FNIRSI-DSO-TC3-Oscilloscope-Transistor-Transistors/dp/B0BV9X733J/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8It's a handheld digital oscilloscope at a good price and good reviews.

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Re: Trace Elliot GP12X Preamp hum
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2024, 07:01:16 pm »
Sold my Tektronix scope a few months ago but am thinking of getting this: https://www.amazon.com/FNIRSI-DSO-TC3-Oscilloscope-Transistor-Transistors/dp/B0BV9X733J/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8It's a handheld digital oscilloscope at a good price and good reviews.

Pretty cool that you will get the elusive Spuare wave with this device

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Re: Trace Elliot GP12X Preamp hum
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2024, 08:41:14 pm »
 :l2:
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

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Re: Trace Elliot GP12X Preamp hum
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2024, 10:16:24 am »
Did not see that. I guess this was lost in translation.

 


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