Which is better?

[roadhog96]

After searching what seems to be forever for a replacement 8-pin tube socket for my vintage blackface Fender amp I was unable to find a replacement that matches the originals exactly. I found one that was made out of the original material which I believe was Phenolic, sometimes referred to as Bakelite, but the metal mounting flange was shaped different and the pin holes had different style holes. I also found one that matches the original style almost perfect, same style metal mounting flange, pin hole shaped the same as the originals, but was made out of ceramic. Both of these were advertised as being an exact replacement for this amp with the same dimensions and required chassis hole. Now I know either one would do the job, but seeing how neither one is an exact replacement, maybe it would be better to use the one that offers the best performance overall. Anyone have any thoughts on which one is the better of the two, Ceramic or Phenolic?

[tubesornothing]

I find that with some cheap ceramics, the pins don't hold the tube that well.  I sure like belton sockets.

[roadhog96]

I find that with some cheap ceramics, the pins don't hold the tube that well.  I sure like belton sockets.

Are these the cheap ceramic ones your refering to?

[billcreller]

Those are Doug's, and I have found them to work great.

[roadhog96]

Those are Doug's, and I have found them to work great.

How much personal experience have you had with these on your own amp or amps? Do they hold up well over time. Does the heat effect the pins? Any problems at all?