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Offline billcreller

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Crate Palomino
« on: October 29, 2014, 12:19:21 am »
The guys who have the recording studio,  that I've fixed stuff for before,  brought over a Crate Palomino amp,  and they said that it " blows pre-amp tubes".....

Just what the hell that means is a mystery to me.

  Anyway, when I removed the cover on the back,  I saw that it's a PC board amp with tubes..  I declined to work on it.....
 The last one I worked on with a PC board, was a Delta Blues (?) and real PIA, so I said  nope !

 Are  those amps any good ? 
I'll never figure this out......

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 05:20:31 am »
Bill,

I wouldn't repair it either.  I'd take on the task to gut it and rebuild it into something that I'd value.  In my experience, Crate amps are not well thought of.

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 08:26:12 pm »
Bill,
I have a lot of experience with those amps.  They do have some inherent design issues but they are great sounding amps and they are really not that hard to work on.  See a thread where I modded one to fix the overheating problem in the chassis.

http://music-electronics-forum.com/t11813/

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 10:52:43 pm »
Thanks for the replies folks.  Good article on cooling one off Barry !  :worthy1:
 I'll have to ask these guys some questions about the problem they have.  My info was second-hand from my son.  :dontknow: Not sure I need any more projects right now....the plate is full,! :icon_biggrin:

BILL
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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 11:03:49 pm »
Bill,

For a retired guy, you sure are busy!  Keep on keepin' on!

Jim

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 11:21:00 pm »
I think the key part of that word is "tired" !   I need a vacation!  The trick ( so far) to staying alive, is to keep movin'  :icon_biggrin:

We (the wife & I )are going to Honolulu in December,  for the graduating ceremony for our youngest son, who gets his PHD/doctorate degree at University of Hawaii on the 20th....
  And of course we are very proud of him! :icon_biggrin:
And I'll be sitting in with my musician friends on my steel guitar too !

Sorry to mud this up with BS !!
I'll never figure this out......

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2014, 05:19:06 am »
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We (the wife & I )are going to Honolulu in December,  for the graduating ceremony for our youngest son, who gets his PHD/doctorate degree at University of Hawaii on the 20th....
  And of course we are very proud of him! :icon_biggrin:
And I'll be sitting in with my musician friends on my steel guitar too !

Sorry to mud this up with BS !!

NO mud there at all ................ just pure GOLD !!!!!    Very cool!   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2014, 04:10:33 pm »
> Sorry to mud this up

Doctor Son is *much* more important than some old crate.

Congratulations.

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 04:27:15 pm »
Oh, yes, it is, CONGRATULATIONS

Franco
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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2014, 03:00:42 am »
Soooo.... While we are sitting in our snow covered homes with teeth chattering, scraping ice and snow off our cars, bundled up and looking like the Michelin Man - YOU will be frolicking on the beach surrounded by long haired bikini clad Hawaiian girls.

I really don't want to talk to you any more..... :icon_biggrin:

Congrats on your son and find some time to relax and recharge! :worthy1:

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2014, 12:14:40 pm »
I don't think I'll be doing much "frolicking"  :icon_biggrin:   Although there are very many beautiful girls/women there !! :icon_biggrin:   One of my Hawaiian friends is taking that time off of work, vacation time, so we can hang out  :icon_biggrin:   He is a musician of course, and I rebuilt several vintage/old steel guitars for him, all Rickenbackers, or, Rickenbachers if they are 30s instruments.  I guess Old Otto changed his last name as WW2 came along ! :laugh:
I'll never figure this out......

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2014, 12:19:09 pm »
In regard to the Crate amp, fixing the hot problem is likely something I can do for those guys......I haven't turned it on yet.
I'll never figure this out......

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2014, 09:23:39 pm »
Bill,

Make sure to take some pictures of your jam sessions and beach frolicking so we can all live vicariously through you! :worthy1:

Jim :icon_biggrin:

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2014, 11:12:37 pm »
Maybe the jam sessions ......... :icon_biggrin: .

I'm having trouble trying to print the schematic for this amp.  My printer will print a test page, but not the schematic.
Probably have to wait until my son comes over tomorrow (Saturday) to get it to work.

I turned it on this evening, with a guitar plugged into it, and it worked for about 5 seconds, then, dead silence ! :dontknow:

I'll take voltage measurements & see if there's power in there someplace !  Tubes appear to be all recent,  Electro Harmonics.
I'll never figure this out......

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2014, 11:42:23 pm »
congrats to you and your family and may your vacation be all that you hope for.


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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2014, 11:52:56 pm »
P.C.B.A.R.T

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2014, 09:37:35 am »
 :laugh:

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Re: Crate Palomino
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2014, 04:51:55 pm »
 :icon_biggrin: That's a "kool tool !"   The only solid state amp I have is the little Roland Micro-Cube, which fits in luggage !

The Crate amp doesn't work when the "clean/overdrive is in the clean position.  So when I first turned it on it didn't work at all.
  I think I'll pass on this one.....and I have a half finished National clone on my bench to finish....
I'll never figure this out......

 


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