Shielded wire

[jeff]

 Does anyone know where to get nice, easy to work with, not too thick/thin, shielded wire? I'd buy from doug but I can't find any. His has the exposed braided shield. I need stranded shield(easier to work with) insulated, like the type used to wire a guitar.

[Tiny_Daddy]

I have been using Belden 8451.

[sluckey]

I'd buy from doug but I can't find any.

Look again. RG-174 is what you want. It has a black plastic outer covering and is about 1/8" diameter.

[kagliostro]

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/cable/2632.html

Kagliostro

[Geezer]

I'd buy from doug but I can't find any.

Look again. RG-174 is what you want. It has a black plastic outer covering and is about 1/8" diameter.

Yeah, Doug has what you want. It is small & has a great shield that is easy to work with.
I just ordered more for myself on Friday..... I suspect it will be here tomorrow or Tuesday.

On this page, the RG-174, as Sluckey said>>>>
http://www.hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/perlshop.cgi?ACTION=enter&template&thispage=WireCable&ORDER_ID=!ORDERID!

It's "A" in the picture>>

[bluesbear]

I use George L. I don't suppose it's any better with the short runs in an amp, but I always keep a bunch of it on hand for cables. It's more expensive but I'd rather use it than have to store one more thing!
Dave

[sluckey]

One thing to remember about RG-174... The plastic insulation for the center conductor is VERRRRY heat sensitive. Sometimes just heating the conductor enough to flow solder will heat the plastic enough to soften it to the point that if there is any strain on the wire, the plastic will slip off the center conductor, ruining your connection. And don't EVEN touch the iron to the plastic.

I still use 174 because I have plenty, but I also have plenty of RG-316. It's the same size and the center conductor insulation is teflon, so no more bo-bos in tight corners. 316 is a little stiffer than 174. I prefer 316 inside a chassis.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RF-Coaxial-cable-M17-113-RG316-50-feet-/150498248459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230a65070b

[jeff]

 Thanks for the RG-174 suggestion but I find the braided shield very hard to work with VS. the stranded shield. How do you seperate the braid so you can use it as two leads. Do you use a small tool and debraid the sheild? Say you want to wire the shield to a pots lug not to the back of the pot. I find the braid to be too bulky and I always lose some strands when trying to seperate them. With the stranded shield you just unwind and twist. The type of wire I'm thinking of is like what you'd see in a Les Paul or in headphones. Strip the insulation and the sheild is wraped around the conductor and easily seperated.

[sluckey]

Braided shield is far superior to stranded shield. Don't try to unbraid the shield. I like to cut off about 1" of the outer jacket. Now slightly push the shield back just enough to relax it and bend the exposed wire doubled back on itself. Use a tiny jewlers screwdriver and begin to push the braid apart right at the bend. Continue separating the braid until you have an opening in the braid that's big enough to put the screwdriver blade between the braid and the center conductor. Now just ease the center conducter out thru the little opening in the braid. With a little practice, you'll be able to quickly do this without breaking a single strand of the braid.

There are other methods that work well too. I bet google can even turn up some howto videos.

Another option is to use the STP that Tiny Daddy suggests. It has a foil shield with a bare stranded wire in contact with the shield. Plus it has two center conductors that form a twisted pair. Very easy to work with and has good shielding properties.
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[jeff]

Cool thanks.

As far as the other wire is concerned should the second conductor be tied to the one you're using or the shield?

[EL34]

I'd buy from doug but I can't find any

Uh, it's wire, so it's on the nuts and bolts page.

No wait, it's on the wire page.
I remember why I put it on the wire page, beacause it's wire.

[jeff]

Uncalled for man uncalled for. What's the point of putting it this way? A simple check the wire page would have sufficed.

Here's the whole post. If you're gonna quote me, quote the important parts too.

 Does anyone know where to get nice, easy to work with, not too thick/thin, shielded wire? I'd buy from doug but I can't find any. His has the exposed braided shield. I need stranded shield(easier to work with) insulated, like the type used to wire a guitar.

Now how could I have known you sell braided shielded wire.
Beacuse I'm psychic

No, wait I'm not psychic
I remember why I know this, because I looked on the wire page.

I went to the wire page and there is no wire like the type I'm looking for/describing. I'd buy from doug but I can't find any(on the wire page, he doesn't sell it)If I was asking for braided shield wire, I get it, but I wasn't. It's like if I were asking about an inner tube for my bike whould you write "DUH-- the tubes are on the tube page you idiot"? This isn't the right forum for bike stuff but it is a tube, and you do have a tube page, but what I described's not on it. Just like it is a wire, and you do have a wire page, but what I described's not on it.

 If you spent half the time understanding the question as you did comming up with this witty quip you'd see that. I thought we're here to help fellow amp builders not rank on them.

I mean really. What's the point of putting it this way?

[EL34]

I was going to say that I put it on the page that most people would never look at, but I put it on the wire page instead. 

It's just a joke, that's what I do.

[jeff]

 You know what I'm saying though. It would have been a funny joke if you did have what I need, But you didn't put it on the wire page. I need help finding wire you don't sell. Anyone reading that will say Oh he didn't check the wire page he'll check it and find what he wants, Next.

[jeff]

I don't know, maybe I having a bad day and should just lighten up.

[John]

I don't know, maybe I having a bad day and should just lighten up.

That's a great idea! 

[Willabe]

Yeah, I think John's right, come on and I'll buy ya a beer!    
          
                     While we listen to some a that good zyde-cajun music......      Ieeeee!!


                                                      



           Brad        
 

[EL34]

People take me too seriously. 

When I pop into the forum it's for just a minute or two.
I don't have time to read all the post.

I'll usually just read the top post and quickly post something at the tail end.

I usually miss all the post after post one down to the bottom.

[tubenit]

Just a thought here .................

I personally prefer the braided wire Doug sells over any other that I've used. It's flexible and reasonably thin & I find it pretty easy to access and trim the inner wire.  And yes, I have used stranded wire that I took out of old PA systems.

I use a corn holder and it takes about 2 seconds to open the braided wire up. That is not much of an inconvenience or time effort to me.

With respect, Tubenit

[EL34]

I use a corn holder.

I wonder if Cornholio approves of that?

Oh wait, you said corn holder!
 

[echuta13]

Every forum needs a heckler.  It's even better when its the owner.