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Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« on: August 28, 2011, 03:35:47 pm »
This is the Tweed Overdrive Special with a new tone stack and a mosfet CF on the clean channel and a 12AY7 CF after the 5879. The CF seems to add smoothness to the tone and improves the sound when using a Boss digital delay.

I think this probably the sweetest sounding amp I've built. The overdrive tone is incredibly smooth!  It has the most "oh wow" tone that I've come up with.

There is quite a bit of detail about the build and what I learned that proved to be important to help get "the tone" I wanted ( & editable schematic and layout and volts and pot settings) here:

http://www.el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11455.new#new

I hope someone else tries building this!

With respect, Tubenit
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2011, 05:37:45 pm »
Definitely some gourmet stuff going on in that schematic! Strongly tempted to build something like that.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2011, 06:37:31 pm »
Thanks for the detailed updates, T!  :worthy1:

I've got a bunch of carcases around my shop right now, any one of which might become a TOS/2CF this winter!

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2011, 06:57:16 pm »
Jeff,
I always said I would build another TOS.
I think this version II may be the one.

The problem is you keep making a better version every 2 months!!!

I'll Wait another week or so before I start gathering parts together, just to see what comes next :icon_biggrin:

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2011, 07:01:54 pm »
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2011, 08:17:36 pm »
PRR,

I don't know enough to understand the diagram & note you made?  You're trying to get my attention on something but I don't know what it is?  

I originally had a 12v zener there and the amp would play for a while and then start to cut out and lose volume. IF I banged a power chord, the volume would return.

I traced the problem down to the zener and removed it.  Played the amp maybe an hr and 15 minutes without the zener and it worked great and sounded wonderful. So I left it out. I thought the zener was simply a safety factor & perhaps not needed?

The R.G. Keene article Mosfet follies shows a mosfet CF without a zener (if I am reading it right?)

http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/mosfet_folly/mosfetfolly.htm

I have the mosfet set up identical in the Carolina SongBird and there has been no issue with a zener in there. I was thinking that maybe the zener was faulty somehow?

Should I pick up another one and reinstall it?  As I said, the amp works fabulous without it. I have no training in electronics at all so I don't get stuff like zeners and mosfets although I got them to work fine on the CSB.

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The problem is you keep making a better version every 2 months!!!

I think I am done at this point!  I've made very very few tweaks to the Tweed BluezMeister since I first built it and have finished with it. Think I am at the same place with the TOS also.
With respect, Tubenit
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 08:28:10 pm »

PRR (or anybody who knows),   :icon_biggrin:

Are you suggesting that I don't need the coupling cap?

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2011, 08:46:19 pm »
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Are you suggesting that I don't need the coupling cap?
Yes. Replace the cap with a piece of wire. Then put the zener back in to protect the MOSFET. The zener prevents the gate from ever becoming more than 12v positive in relation to the source. The operation should be totally transparent.
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2011, 08:47:20 pm »
No, I think he's questioning the wisdom of not having a defined bias network on the gate of the MOSFET.

Normally, you might se 2 resistors at the gate to define the bias; one runs from the supply voltage to the gate, the second runs from gate to ground. In transistor circuits, these resistors are sometimes used in addition to an emitter (think "cathode") resistor.

I think the idea is to have a rock-solid bias that is defined by external resistors, rather than any self-bias mechanism dependant on the solid state device itself. At least in the old days, once you ran the transistor for a while, it would get hot, pass more current, which altered the bias such that the device wanted to pass more current... and the whole thing went into runaway.

I still don't know enough about MOSFETs to direct you on how to improve the circuit. But I think PRR is suggesting you bias it in a manner that's not dependant on the device. Funny enough, in most transistor circuits, the device used has so much gain that you design based almost entirely on the value of the external resistors; that characteristics of the transistor rarely enter into the picture!

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2011, 09:43:10 pm »
HBP,  THANKS for the reply!  I am retracing my steps and have NO idea where I got the idea to put a coupling cap between the plate of the previous triode and the grid of the mosfet? 

Anybody know where I came up with that idea?   :dontknow: :l2:

Here is the original thread on the idea of using a mosfet CF:

http://www.el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=11628.0


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Are you suggesting that I don't need the coupling cap?

Yes. Replace the cap with a piece of wire. Then put the zener back in to protect the MOSFET. The zener prevents the gate from ever becoming more than 12v positive in relation to the source. The operation should be totally transparent.

Can someone confirm that the schematic below would be correct, please?

Thanks,  Tubenit


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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2011, 11:51:29 pm »
You know tubnit I always said I would build another TOS so Im going to have to get another plate made and go for it I guess. Ive been pretty slow on finishing the trainwreck Ive been working on almost have the board populated though.   :happy1:
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 01:04:13 am »
I'm with you bill, i've been busy with the Plexi Gain 20 and have been watching the Songbird unfold and the thought of my TOS rebuild with some of the great ideas that Tubenit has come up with. So Tubenit eagerly i wait for the evolution that is THE TWEED OVERDRIVE SPECIAL ll. Thanks

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2011, 01:12:50 am »
your source follower does not have a bias ckt. i think PRR may have been referring to something like attached.

also, i believe that you can bootstrap bias a MOSFET  - don't know how. hopefully PRR will chime when if he has the time.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2011, 05:29:53 am »
Dummyload,

Do R1 and R2 represent the plate and resistor of the preceeding 12A_7 triode?

Not sure I understand your drawing?  Have you drawn the same thing I drew in post #9?

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2011, 06:16:18 am »
Dummyload,

Do R1 and R2 represent the plate and resistor of the preceeding 12A_7 triode?

Not sure I understand your drawing?  Have you drawn the same thing I drew in post #9?

With respect, Tubenit

no, they are 2 NEW resistors. they form a divider network to set the bias of the MOSFET.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2011, 06:40:30 am »
It will work just fine connected as shown in the pic in your reply #9. This is a direct coupled source follower and will self bias just like a direct coupled cathode follower will. The zener will provide some protection for the MOSFET.

DL's circuit works also. It is a fixed bias scheme. In addition to the voltage divider resistors, you must use a cap to isolate from the previous stage. You'll have to figure out the value of the resistors. Bootstrap bias would be better though.

I prefer the simpler, direct coupled circuit.
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2011, 06:55:33 am »
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I prefer the simpler, direct coupled circuit.
 


Simple works for me.  THANKS, guys! I appreciate the help and responses.

Got some more playing time in on the amp last night. I'm loving the tone this thing has.

With respect, Tubenit

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2011, 08:04:02 am »
with 150K anode load - bias will be at about 140Vdc (Va of the gain stage) you want 1/2 B+ or about 110Vdc for Vg of MOSFET. suggest using 270K resistor instead of 150K anode resistor for gain stage if you're going to be DC connected. gain will be pretty stiff - around 45 unbyapassed, 80 bypassed.

more information on bottstrapping a FET - scroll down to page 8.

http://coe.uncc.edu/~dlsharer/ETEE3212WebCT/SectionJ/J7.pdf

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2011, 08:19:35 am »
It will work just fine connected as shown in the pic in your reply #9. This is a direct coupled source follower and will self bias just like a direct coupled cathode follower will. The zener will provide some protection for the MOSFET.

DL's circuit works also. It is a fixed bias scheme. In addition to the voltage divider resistors, you must use a cap to isolate from the previous stage. You'll have to figure out the value of the resistors. Bootstrap bias would be better though.

I prefer the simpler, direct coupled circuit.

So could we say Tubenit's previous problems when using the zener was caused by having the zener and a coupling cap? That is, the coupling cap with what was essentially a dc bias scheme caused the cap to charge to the level of the signal and cut off the MOSFET?

So, out of this, Tubenit could either leave everything as is, but replace the cap with a jumper (as you noted previously), OR keep the coupling cap and add the fixed-bias network on the gate. Correct?

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2011, 11:40:44 am »
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So could we say Tubenit's previous problems when using the zener was caused by having the zener and a coupling cap? That is, the coupling cap with what was essentially a dc bias scheme caused the cap to charge to the level of the signal and cut off the MOSFET

What is puzzling me is that I have the EXACT same set up on the Carolina SongBird and it has worked fine for a month with no issues & have alot more hrs of playing the CSB then this recent TOS 2CF rebuild?

Anyhow, I plan to remove the coupling cap on both and add another zener on the TOS.  Thanks for the help! I'll read the bootstraping info and see if I can make sense of it. However, I am going to go the simple route & trust that'll be sufficient.

Is the schematic I drew even close to the bootstrap model?  Is the cap needed?  What values for resistors?

With respect, Tubenit
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2011, 12:25:08 pm »
Is the schematic I drew even close to the bootstrap model?  Is the cap needed?  What values for resistors?

yes, cap is needed - same as with the cathode follower that is not direct-coupled. my take on the article is that the values are much the same for the FET source follower as the valve CF. the only question i have is the bias - we need 4-5V Vgs for the silly thing to even conduct so i'm wondering if we can leave the zener in place and just calculate Rs1 based on the zener voltage drop / desired Ibias and Rs2 based on the desired Vg / Ibias.

need some lab time.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2011, 12:47:07 pm »
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Is the schematic I drew even close to the bootstrap model?  Is the cap needed?  What values for resistors?
Schematic is correct. Cap is needed. Switch positions with the 82K and 1K. Or just use the same values as used in a tube circuit. Look at the Princeton Reverb bootstrapped phase inverter for typical cap and resistor values. Just think of the PR PI as a cathode follower with an output from the plate too.



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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2011, 01:04:57 pm »
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Just think of the PR PI as a cathode follower with an output from the plate too.

That was a helpful word picture!  Thanks! 

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2011, 01:15:35 pm »
And remember one other thing... I'm talking from 40 year old theory and stuff I've learned while hanging out around here. I've never actually replaced a tube with a MOSFET. There could be errors in what I've been saying even though I believe the info is correct even if not complete.    :grin:

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2011, 01:25:46 pm »

How about something like this?   Are the values OK?

What specifically about the 220R ?

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2011, 01:49:01 pm »
I'd change that 220R to a 1meg. Someone (maybe tubeswell) recommended using a 220R resistor between the coupling cap and the gate as a gate stopper (think grid stopper). Probably not needed in the bootstrap circuit though. (Educated guessing!)

Whats wrong with the direct coupled circuit? Very simple and fewer parts.
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2011, 02:04:13 pm »
Oh, I plan to use the direct coupled circuit on both amps.  I like simple.   :icon_biggrin:

Just trying to get a mental picture of the bootstrapped one.

Thanks, Tubenit

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2011, 08:13:50 pm »
Used the "simple" approach on both the TOS 2CF and the Carolina SongBird.  Works great.

Thanks guys!  Tubenit

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2011, 11:46:17 pm »
> have NO idea where I got the idea to put a coupling cap between the plate of the previous triode and the grid of the mosfet?

Cap and _no_ gate resistor. That's the dubious/bad idea.

You didn't get it from R.G.'s page: all those gates connect to the previous plate or to a DC voltage through a resistor.

In a TUBE circuit, _ALL_ grids have a resistor to some DC voltage. Usually zero/ground. Sometimes a bias voltage. Sometimes to some part of a larger circuit which will assume a DC voltage. But any grid which has NO resistor (infinite resistance to anything) is gonna give trouble.

It is in fact 90% the same as a tube. Look at 5F6a. The cathode follower is "direct connected" to the plate before it.

OK, do it your way. What is the DC voltage at the gate; also at the source ("cathode") resistor? Let's see: coupling capacitor at left blocks all DC. Gate is a thin layer of glass, blocks all DC. The gate voltage could be zero to infinity (plus or minus infinity!). The source could be zero DC voltage (zero current, won't work) to +300V (resistor may cook and MOSFET clips half the signal). The stage's bias is UNDETERMINED.

That's as professional as showing-up to a gig with "undetermined" pay. You usually want some general idea: free beer? $5/4 hours? $7,000/40 minutes? You must pay to play? Likewise the amplifier stage "wants" to be 100V-200V or so, not "undetermined".

> had a 12v zener there and the amp would play for a while and then start to cut out and lose volume. IF I banged a power chord, the volume would return.
> I traced the problem down to the zener and removed it.  Played the amp maybe an hr and 15 minutes without the zener and it worked great and sounded wonderful.


That's about what I'd feared. Yes, with good luck and no bad moon, the "undetermined" bias MAY work. With a JFET (you can't find hi-volt JFETs) the device leakage is kinda-sure to find an off- medium bias, and a few hard slams may keep it centered. With an unprotected MOSFET, however, the leakage is too tiny to know what will happen, and a few hard slams will probably pop the gate. I suspect you have a protected MOSFET with some gate leakage.

With one external Zener, the leakage will tend to drift the bias one way, eventually to a non-working condition. A few hard slams may re-center it into operation, only to drift again.

A brutal analogy: if you disconnect a car steering wheel, the car still goes down the road a while, but "undetermined". It is pretty sure to drift. If there's walls along the road, the slams will tend to center the car in the lane, unless it drifts gently and ends up scrubbing the wall.

"Steer" your circuits so the output is somewhere the center of the power supply. With plate-output triodes, you grid-leak to ground, use 100K and 1K resistors with 12AX7, and it will self-center near-enough. With cathode/source followers, you set the grid/gate near the center, and the cathode/source, uh, follows.

> Replace the cap with a piece of wire.
> Normally, you might use 2 resistors at the gate to define the bias


Either way can work. In this case, you know the previous plate is at a reasonable DC voltage. Do like 5F6a and just direct-couple it. In other cases the previous stage is not at suitable DC voltage (after a volume/tone control or input jack) and you use a cap and a couple 1Meg resistors to get the gate up near half-supply. (There's another way for vacuum triodes and JFETs but won't work for common MOSFETs.)

Yes, put the Zener back. When the gate is properly guided to a reasonable DC voltage, the Zener does no harm and WILL save grief. The Zener was not the problem; it was the lack of any idea where the gate should sit.
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2011, 12:21:55 am »
> bottstrapping a FET - scroll down to page 8.

Works on vacuum triodes and JFETs (note arrow on gate).

Won't work on common MOSFETs (note parallel-pate gate).

Would work on "depletion mode" MOSFETs, but they are fairly rare. (There _is_ a new one out; worth knowing if you are reading hot ideas, but not generally worth stocking an extra part-number for guitar amps.)

Look at the "conventional" common-cathode/source bias.

For vacuum tubes and JFETs, grid/gate is a couple volts _negative_ of cathode/source. A cathode resistor passing plate-cathode current "naturally" causes bias the right way.

For enhancement-mode MOSFETs, the gate must be several volts _positive_ of the source. No trickery in the source path can cause this. You need some other way.

Note one small difference replacing a vacuum cathode-follower with a MOSFET. Say the previous plate or bias-divider sits at +150V. A cathode follower's output will be +152V. A MOSFET follower's output will be +148V. But so what? In our 300V world, 2V-3V up or down is usually "no difference". Just saying in case someone starts observing and thinking.

One "real" difference: the 5F6a is well-biased: first cathode resistor is small (820r) to pull first plate down so the second tube has plenty of plate-cathode voltage. However many avant-garde guitar amps "mis"-bias so the second tube is starved for plate-cathode voltage. Positive signal is clipped. This is "a sound", which can be futher diddled by the tone-stack after. IMHO there's other ways to do this, more predictable, but maybe a happy accident from not-following Leo's plan closely.
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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2011, 05:00:38 pm »
Hi guys, I'm in the layout stage of my TOS rebuild.The timing is great as work has been slow (poured some concrete slabs and because it has been a bit cold it took all day to go hard, this gave me time to do the nutting out of the layout).  :icon_biggrin:

Tubenit, some questions :-

The mini pot off the .03cap is this externally mounted for regular tweaks?
Trimpot off .02cap is this a set and forget?
The OD boost switch not required or forgotten?
The .0042/.0012 cap arrangement done as to required sound or single .0056 cap do?
Is a 47uf at Pre-A going to make much difference? I'm thinking not
The two 20uf Paralleled at node C also a sound thing?
The original TOS has a 330-0-330 tranny with a SS plug and a choke,I'm thinking to replace the plug with a GZ34 and keep your dropping resistors as is and run every thing at a higher voltage and see what happens.

Keep up the good work. Thanks

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2011, 05:28:46 pm »
The mini pot off the .03cap is this externally mounted for regular tweaks?      Yes it's on the front panel Just a stem without a knob. I marked the end of the stem with a dremel tool to have an indicator.

Trimpot off .02cap is this a set and forget?   Yes

The OD boost switch not required or forgotten?  It was replaced by the PAB. Would've liked to have had both.

The .0042/.0012 cap arrangement done as to required sound or single .0056 cap do?  either is fine

Is a 47uf at Pre-A going to make much difference? I'm thinking not   That was left over from having a VVR. I replaced the VVR with PPIMV & made the minimal changes to do so.

The two 20uf Paralleled at node C also a sound thing?  That was also left over from having a VVR

The original TOS has a 330-0-330 tranny with a SS plug and a choke,I'm thinking to replace the plug with a GZ34 and keep your dropping resistors as is and run every thing at a higher voltage and see what happens. 

I prefer tube rectification because then I can use a 5Y3, 5V4 or GZ34. 

With respect, Tubenit


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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2011, 05:58:42 pm »
Thanks for all that info, looking forward to the rebuild.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2011, 08:05:06 pm »
Tubenit,

This latest TOS 2 CF is the best sounding of all the TOS amps IMO! My TOS amp is 40 watts with jj 6L6 power tubes. It started out, back in January of 2011 as the first version of the TOS amp, than I did your mod with the new tone stack and the CF after the 5879 with the smoothing caps. That mod improved the overdrive quite a bit.

I just finished your latest mods to the amp. I took out the VVR and put in the LarMar PPIMV and played the amp that way for a day, but was not happy with the sound below 7 on the PPIMV. I took out the PPIMV and replaced it with a master volume before the effects input, IMO I like the sound of the amp better when I turn down the MV now, it does not get as thin sounding.

The clean channel now has a fuller sound than it did in the past versions and the notes are now clearer sounding. The PAB with the chime pot gives the clean channel a great bluesy sound, a bit overdriven with the ability to change the tone on the chime pot. The overdrive channel sounds even better now and it sounded real good in the past versions.

If you have the PAB on and the overdrive on you get a lot more overdrive than any of the past versions. This is now a really great sounding amp!!!!!!! This new version has the ability to do a lot of different sounds, from real full clean, a bluesy sound, a smooth overdrive or to a pretty wild overdrive. If any one has thought about building a TOS amp this is the ONE TO BUILD!!!!

Thanks Tubenit for all your hard work tweeking this amp to the great amp it is now! I enjoy doing the tweeks you come up with and respect your ability to come up with these great changes to this amp!

Thanks, William_G

« Last Edit: November 22, 2011, 08:46:12 pm by William_G »

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2012, 06:45:10 pm »
I finally  got around to recording a song to demo the Tweed Overdrive Special 2CF. This has the mosfet CF on the clean channel and a triode CF following the 5879.  Amp is very quiet at idle also.

Ignore the mediocre playing, please.  

I purposely recorded it from clean to somewhat clean to slightly overdriven to more overdriven.  I think the recording does a decent job showing each of those. I feel like I am getting some pretty smooth OD and nice contrast to the clean.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11332809&q=hi&newref=1

The overdrive has ALOT more overdrive to be dialed in. The trim was on 5, OD drive on 3.5 and OD level on 3.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2012, 07:55:46 pm »
Tubenit, I think that sounds bleepn' fantastic. Tasteful playing and upping the OD on the successive verses gives a nice emotional progression to the track.  The amp tones are awesome.  Your work on that circuit has really paid off.
FWIW, personally, I thought the echo detracted from the clean tone a bit.  Listening with headphones I hear kind of a chorus-y effect and there is kind of a percussive effect at the end of phrases that slightly upsets the flow.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2012, 09:24:58 pm »
Thanks for the nice comments about the tone. I am really enjoying the amp.

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I thought the echo detracted from the clean tone a bit.  Listening with headphones I hear kind of a chorus-y effect and there is kind of a percussive effect at the end of phrases that slightly upsets the flow.
 

Yeah, I think maybe you're right about the echo. FWIW, I didn't use any chorus at all, but did use EQ, a very small amount of compression and some delay in the mix.  I was trying to get sort of a country tone on this one.

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clean is up til 42 sec
somewhat clean is from 43 sec to 1:22
slight OD is from 1:22 to 2:20
more OD is from 2:20 to the end
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 09:41:15 pm by tubenit »

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2012, 09:15:26 am »
S-C-H-W-H-A-E-E-E-T !!!   :icon_biggrin:

What cab and speaker(s) were you playing though?  Guitar?

Happy new year to all.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2012, 10:17:00 am »
Emminence Cannabis Rex speaker in this speaker cab.  This is the guitar I used. The guitar has Cruiser p.u. in neck and middle and Fast Track 1 in the bridge. Guitar has hollow sides with maple top over PrimaVera back.

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2012, 12:24:33 pm »
Same amp, guitar, speaker cab, settings and me.
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Slow blues this time.  I am enjoying this amp. Got blisters on my fingers at this point & can barely bend a string.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11334456&q=hi&newref=1

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2012, 02:13:37 pm »
Last one for a while ............................

Same everything.     Slight OD .............. clean with alot of delay ................... more OD with mid pickup ................. more OD with bridge p.u.


http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11338151&q=hi&newref=1


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Another soundclip.   TOS 2CF & a wah pedal plus lots of delay in the mix.

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11343107&q=hi&newref=1
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 06:18:01 pm by tubenit »

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Re: Tweed Overdrive w/ 2 CF
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2012, 01:04:49 am »
Fantastic, One of my favourites done BEAUTIFULLY  :icon_biggrin: My TOS in just about done just tarting her up and like others i am very happy with the outcome. Thanks

 


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