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Offline kagliostro

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A Long Tail Phase Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« on: September 24, 2011, 02:07:30 pm »
Which kind of PI is this ????

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Re: A Long Tail Phare Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 03:45:41 pm »
Long tail with a current source. Each phase drives a cathode follower. Each cathode follower drives the grids of the output tubes.

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Re: A Long Tail Phare Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 05:56:13 pm »
I don't see any cathode followers. ????   :dontknow:

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Re: A Long Tail Phare Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 06:32:23 pm »
I don't see any cathode followers. ????   :dontknow:

you're right... haste post ry50 are the output tubes...the lines off the cathodes threw me. my apologies. notice that bipolar power supply is required. more of pain than it's worth.

i guess ry are cyrillic alphabet for GU in english alphabet?

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Re: A Long Tail Phare Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 06:43:04 pm »
I see the neg 120V but I also see that resistor connected to the positive lead of a filter cap.  That doesn't seem right to me.

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Re: A Long Tail Phare Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 07:03:09 am »
I've find the origin of that schematic

this is the page (in russian - you must use google translator to try to understand something - russian to italian isn't good)

http://sergeev21.narod.ru/gu50pp.htm

the author say there is an NFB and also a positive current feedback in order to have a low output impedance

this schematic was after changed and not used

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Re: A Long Tail Phase Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 05:15:37 pm »
I think I've find the answer

wrong or not I think the intention for that circuit was a CCS for LTPI

http://www.freewebs.com/valvewizard/ccs.html

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Re: A Long Tail Phase Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 06:18:03 pm »
Yep. Just like DummyLoad said in reply #1.
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Re: A Long Tail Phase Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 01:17:02 am »
sometimes the truth is near but hides :icon_biggrin:

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Re: A Long Tail Phase Inverter ???? ......... strange schematic ????
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 07:39:22 am »
One mans 'sink' may be another mans 'source'.    :grin:
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

 


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