Slaughter on 10th Avenue

[EL34]

I threw this one together this morning using an existing backing track

One of the cooler tunes that the Ventures covered

Slaughter on 10th Avenue
http://www.el34world.com/Misc/Music/files/SlaughterOn10thAve.mp3

I posted this on the Surf guitar 101 forum
http://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/22789/

[tubenit]

GREAT job!   Not only did your playing sound like the Ventures,  I thought your "amp tone" sounded very much like the Ventures.

That really turned out fabulous.

Jeff

[sluckey]

That's one of my favorites. Great job.

[EL34]

Thanks guys,
That one is one of my favs also and it's a blast to play.

With 3 key changes, it keeps you on your toes

[Platefire]

That brings back memories. Great Job. I don't know how you could throw that together fast unless you knew it inside and out. The Ventures would be giving you the old 

[EL34]

I thought you would like it Plate
Yeah, it does bring back memories

I downloaded the backing track a month or so ago and learned the tune
I always avoided it years ago because it seemed way beyond my abilities and it's allot of stuff to remember

It is more difficult than most the other ventures type stuff I do, but it is such a cool tune I went for it.
It's amazing to look back and see just how awesome Noki Edwards was and how great a band the Ventures were

[sluckey]

It's amazing to look back and see just how awesome Noki Edwards was and how great a band the Ventures were

Amen!

[EL34]

It's amazing to look back and see just how awesome Noki Edwards was and how great a band the Ventures were

Amen!

Not much love these days for the Ventures except from old guys like us.

Not sure the Justin beaver crowd has a clue. 

[Ritchie200]

Doug,

I remember the tune, but I guess I'm used to the wide open "twin"y sound you normally have on your surf tunes.  It sounds like you have a ton of compression on this one.  Is that how the original was?  Dont get me wrong, I think it sounds really cool!  Well done again!  That one did have a few changes in it!

Jim

PS you weren't using that bucker.....were you?

[Ritchie200]

PSS dont make fun of Jeff's favorite performer, the Beeb's.

Jim

[EL34]

Doug,
I remember the tune, but I guess I'm used to the wide open "twin"y sound you normally have on your surf tunes.  
It sounds like you have a ton of compression on this one.  
Is that how the original was?  
Dont get me wrong, I think it sounds really cool!  
Well done again!  That one did have a few changes in it!
Jim
PS you weren't using that bucker.....were you?

I always use the same guitar, the white JS2400 IBanez with the buckers switched to single coil
The one seen in this vid
Queen of Spades - Guitar instrumental

My sound chain is
Guitar -> Revibe -> Tube preamp -> Soundcard line in -> guitar rig -> record direct

Don't know how any originals are done, I always just do it like I hear it in my head. 

The preset in Guitar rig looks like this
It's a HiWatt head and cabinet with a compressor and a delay

I turn the delay off for rhythm tracks and turn it on for lead tracks

[tubenit]

the white JS2400 IBanez with the buckers switched to single coil

Wow! That's interesting and it surprised me. I thought you had one of your strats for that tune.  That Ibanez really has a superb single coil tone also.

Jeff

[EL34]

I sold my Strats. Sold the last one a month or so ago in a local music store
Just did not play them any more after getting the Ibanez JS2400 and JS 1200CA guitars

I like the Ibanez's way better.

Well actually I have one Strat left but it's the one that is tuned down to B with a big .060 bottom string
The bridge is fixed down to the body and there is no whammy bar on it
I only use that guitar for super heavy sounding rhythm chord parts

I play the white JS2400 guitar all the time for everything
The pickups are not hot rod humbuckers, Joe Satriani likes vintage type humbuckers
When you split them into a single coil you get a nice single coil sound

The red Ibanez 1200CA is in the house. It's a "sit and watch TV guitar"

[tubenit]

Well, with that convincing of a strat sound from the Ibanez,  I would be tempted to part from a strat if offered a good enough price myself.  I did not know Satriani  would've chosen vintage type humbuckers.

Jeff

[Ritchie200]

I would be seeking cover RIGHT now if I was you guys.  Lightning is about to strike VERY close to your current position...

Jim

[EL34]

Well, with that convincing of a strat sound from the Ibanez,  I would be tempted to part from a strat if offered a good enough price myself.  I did not know Satriani  would've chosen vintage type humbuckers.

Jeff

They are both Dimarzio pickups but super high output
http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_eg_page13.php?data_id=41&color=CL01&year=2013&cat_id=1&series_id=167

I don't think you would like the neck
It's not a rounded shaped neck

I measured the pickups
Neck is 7.9K HB - 4k single
Bridge is 9.2K HB - 4.6k single

[tubenit]

I measured the pickups      Neck is 7.9K HB - 4k single        Bridge is 9.2K HB - 4.6k single

Old P.A.F.s weren't made in separate neck and bridge-position models, and their DC resistance varied from 7-9K ohms. We give you a choice: Parsons Street neck-position pickups are wound to mid 7K, and bridge-position models to low 8K.

Those seem to be within normal limits of vintage P.A.F. pickups.     

As an FYI,  one of my guitar necks is very fat and round.  The other is more a modern style probably similar to your Ibanez?

Jeff

[EL34]

Was not sure because I remembered you saying something about the neck shape once.

Most people can't get past the pointy headstock on Ibanez guitars
No big deal to me

[Platefire]

Doug

I'm surprised about what you said about avoiding learning that song in times past because I did the same thing. I always loved to listen to it but never sat down and tried to learn it. When I got my first Mongomery Ward Guitar and ST 1482 amp, I hardly knew there was a top 40 on AM radio becuase I lived off of sitting by my record player with with guitar in hand, playing Venture albums resetting the needle arm on the record player back over and over to the same place until I learned a lick or passage. Most of my Venture albums eventually skipped because of that. As you say their is a lot of surf bands playing that kind of music today and doing a great job of it but the Ventures were cutting edge as they did it before everybody else years ago. Also as you said, I miss the days when instruments were a big part of the popular music.
But anyway, it must feel good after avoiding that song so long and now you know it with great evidence to prove it. Platefire

BTW-One of the Ventures songs I enjoyed playing was their version of "Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White" off the Colorful Ventures album.

Note: For any of you younger folks reading this, a little historical background. Back in the 50's and 60's FM stereo radio was rare almost unheard of and satilite radio didn't exist. Most common folks had AM mono radio in their car and house. Radio stations had a top 40 hits that they played over and over. This included rock and roll, country, all kinds of instrumentals in differnt styles. Any song that was a national hit was heard on AM mono radio except blues. You had to listen to the Black stations to hear the blues. Until AM mono radio gave way to Stereo FM in the 70's, even though bands were recording in stereo by then, they had to do a special mono mix for AM mono radio until AM radio top 40 passed. To get the stereo version, you had to go out and buy the record and play it on your stereo record player.    

[super&plexi]

Boggled my mind to see so many people, so fast, coming up, from all over the world, with serious chops!                                                               


When I first found the internet, there was maybe 3 versions of 'cause we ended as lovers', the S.Wonder tune J. Beck covered. 

now, I think dogs are playing it,....through amps They built!.................when did they get thumbs!?????    l