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Offline rakkassan34

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I've searched the forum and the web and can't find the answer. When I finished my amp build I used a light bulb limiter to power up the amp without tubes in it once I saw the bulb go dim I powered it off put the tubes in and powered it up again. Light bulb went dim and the tubes had a soft glow and I started taking voltage readings. I did all of this without a speaker plugged in. As some of you have read the amp works great on lower volumes but breaks up bad at higher volumes. I found that my B+ voltages are a tad high and I haven't biased it yet. I'm still troubleshooting and was wondering if I caused some sort of damage by plugging it in without a speaker plugged into it. I had nothing plugged into the inputs and had my light bulb limiter with a 75w bulb in it.

Offline kagliostro

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I think that without an input signal there are good probabilities you didn't damaged the tubes


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Offline sluckey

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I think that without an input signal there are good probabilities you didn't damaged the tubes
I agree.
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

Offline rakkassan34

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Thank you thank you. I was thinking and hoping I didn't. Like I said it sounds great at low levels. To me that sounds like a voltage or single component issue and not damage to the whole amp but I had to ask because I don't know what damage plugging one in without a speaker could do

Offline labb

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If you play a tube amp for very long with out a load on the OT you will destroy the OT.

Offline sluckey

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If you play a tube amp for very long with out a load on the OT you will destroy the OT.
That's usually true. Heck, just slamming one power chord in a dimed big amp without a speaker can destroy the OT, output tubes and sockets.

But you can safely run an amp for days on end without a speaker if you don't feed a signal into it. I'm not recommending anyone intentionally do that.
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

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As others have already stated without a input signal running the amp (with a light bulb limiter) probably didn't do any damage . However , I wouldn't do that without the limiter and with a input signal applied , it will not only damage your OT and tubes it can burn up grid resistors as well and possibly you PT .
Any tube unit can be brought back to life.
I never meet a tube I didn't like.

Offline PRR

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> The resistance will climb as the element gets hotter.

I tried that long-long ago.

The cold resistance rises SO fast that a p-p 6V6 amp is basically un-loaded.

Iron fence-wire may be a better bet, though spread it out (zig-zag around nails in a board) instead of wrapping a broomstick.

 


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