eeePC 701 (was: What power amp is this??)

[DummyLoad]

Using my eeePC 701..... dang these keys are still tiny-tiny, plus I think my fingers are getting fatter.

notebooks are a pain the tush and difficult to type on, esp. for us ham-fisted types: mostly tho, i think it's a getting old thing and fingers don't do what we tell them to like they used to.

ewww! linux! ;-)

--pete

[PRR]

> ewww! linux! ;-)

IIRC, Win XP was an option.

The original lindros on mine filled up and corrupted. I have Puppy "Lucid" on it but the fix-size dialog boxes don't fit in 480 pixels. I have a lead on an older Ubuntu (ew) which apparently works for one guy. Loading the ISO in VirtualBox to see if it hates me (or I it).

[Paul1453]

Many flavors of Ubuntu out there to try.  Mint seems to work well.
Rock solid and never crashes.  Just need to be careful with updates which come fast and furious.
Special services such as samba don't necessarily need to be updated, especially when they are working properly for you.

Try it you might like it!

If you still need win-doze you can run it in virtual box.
So when it locks up or crashes you can just restart it in its virtual environment without needing to reboot.

[PRR]

I guess you didn't read/understand.

The eeePC 701 is an exceptionally small machine: KB, HD, display.

Most O/Ses will fill up display or HD. Puppy fits in HD but some text dialog boxes are hard-coded taller than the screen. (Oddly Win XP runs OK in a 480px tall display.)

I have been hated by unix since the late 1970s. Layers of puffy candy do not make it better.

Not updating Samba sounds like a very serious risk. File-share virus/worms are still around. Windows networking is horrid to begin with. "Security" is all tack-on, and often it is just easier to go through a gap in the side. Not well documented in detail (and much of MS's docs are just wrong). Samba tries to track MSnet but it is a never-ending problem.

[DummyLoad]

I guess you didn't read/understand.

The eeePC 701 is an exceptionally small machine: KB, HD, display.

Most O/Ses will fill up display or HD. Puppy fits in HD but some text dialog boxes are hard-coded taller than the screen. (Oddly Win XP runs OK in a 480px tall display.)

I have been hated by unix since the late 1970s. Layers of puffy candy do not make it better.

Not updating Samba sounds like a very serious risk. File-share virus/worms are still around. Windows networking is horrid to begin with. "Security" is all tack-on, and often it is just easier to go through a gap in the side. Not well documented in detail (and much of MS's docs are just wrong). Samba tries to track MSnet but it is a never-ending problem.

yeah i did read: they're kind of small...seven inch LCD is just too small for me. just remember though, kids nowadays can hack out > 100wpm on a smart phone... innovative and cool little machine in their prime. lately i've been eyeing the intel thumb PC... the intel i7 NUC is also appealing as it has a small footprint. it's about 1/50th the size of the precision 690 workstation i have now and runs circles around these 8 cores.

we run centos for perfSONAR and i run ubuntu on my net engineering server. samba is a hack me *@&^#$ whore. strict shorewall rules help immensely.

day to day i run JunOS and IOS on packet black-hole devices. JunOS is BSD based and IOS-XE & XR are linux kernel based. have been hacking on unix since 80's when we acquired at&t 3B2 that ran sysV r3: it was our accounting system. before that, some atnx on alloy PC slaves for a couple of law firms. later in early 90's fiddled with novell 2.11 and 3.12; those were short lived as was IPX/SPX transport. OS/2 and netbios was/is a joke: by then we're into the mid 90's and anything that ran TCP/IP native blasted them all out of business. IBM pushed xenix on 286 and > PC platform but never went anywhere.

sun solaris was go-to unix for canned IP servers but SPARC was big $ hardware, and finally linux on pentium got good enough for enterprise use and open source now dominates data centers. sun did move to pentium, but by then every one else was building open source OS on pentium servers. dell and HP become competitors in a market where sun used to have little competition. we had dec alpha but like sun they didn't see the writing on the wall and got swallowed by intel and HP. i predict AMD will not last another couple of years or get swallowed up as they are very slow to market with new CPUs and GPU's seem to be the only thing that's keeping them afloat.

--pete

[Paul1453]

I guess you didn't read/understand.

The eeePC 701 is an exceptionally small machine: KB, HD, display.

Most O/Ses will fill up display or HD. Puppy fits in HD but some text dialog boxes are hard-coded taller than the screen. (Oddly Win XP runs OK in a 480px tall display.)

I have been hated by unix since the late 1970s. Layers of puffy candy do not make it better.

Not updating Samba sounds like a very serious risk. File-share virus/worms are still around. Windows networking is horrid to begin with. "Security" is all tack-on, and often it is just easier to go through a gap in the side. Not well documented in detail (and much of MS's docs are just wrong). Samba tries to track MSnet but it is a never-ending problem.

I didn't notice the eeePC part right away.   

We did run versions of Linux on the few netbooks we had.  With reasonable success.
Now most smartphones are more powerful than the netbooks we have.
And they are Andriod OS (Linux derived).

Samba may not have been the best example of a  service to pick, as it's not needed unless you share resources on a Windows network.
Almost all file-sharing virus/worms are Windows based, so even if you catch one they can't eat your Linux system.
While in Korea, Ubuntu Linux was the only OS I would install for my wife and youngest son to use on their PC.
They would get any flavor of Windows virused up in less than a month.  Ubuntu ran for over 2 years with no problem.
They never ran any updates, as users they couldn't, and we never had any issues.

Most people do that Linux eeewww thing.  They never really tried it enough to find out about it.
They would rather give MSFT $100 of their hard earned money to get buggy software that locks up/crashes alot.
Then they need to give MSFT more money for Office, just so they can do things Linux users get for free.

IMO, If our politicians didn't need to be bribed with that MS licensing $, we would be using free/more secure Linux OS's on our Govt computers.   

[shooter]

still got my COSMIC ELF II, hex keypad, upgraded 1k ram, tape storage, machine code programing, hasn't been hacked in over 20+yrs 

[DummyLoad]

still got my COSMIC ELF II, hex keypad, upgraded 1k ram, tape storage, machine code programing, hasn't been hacked in over 20+yrs 

do you mean the COSMAC ELF based on the RCA CDP-1802 CPU?

--pete

[PRR]

Yes AT&T unix. For a while that's all we knew. When AT&T could NOT sell their Unix PC, they made their own workers use them to keep budget. When even that didn't deplete the backlog, I understand they (the PCs not the workers) were bulldozed into landfill. (Bulldozing the workers came later.) Meanwhile in academia the Berkeley flavor ran rampant. I was never geek enough to celebrate the differences AT&t or BSD. Kochan/Wood UNIX 1984 still sits by my desk. It says AT&T but BSD will obey the same incantations.

> i predict AMD will not last another couple of years

AMD will stay alive a while; Intel needs the balance to avoid looking like a monopoly.

Yes, the non-'86 CPUs do seem to be thriving, making Intel and its frienemy moot.

I got a recent AMD and mobo. AM1, socket FS1b. The only things on the mobo are the jacks. EVERYTHING is in the CPU. All mobos for this socket have nearly the same feature-set-- what is built into the CPU. 2 SATA, 8 USB (2 USB3), no IDE, no flop, but there are PS2 LPT and COM ports! Mine has two actual COM jacks plus a header for my COM3. Apparently the main market for the CPU is very low cost kiosks for South American internet cafes. I guess they keep their PS2 keyboards and serial mice and Centronics printers a while. It is the cheapest '86 platform in mass distribution.

I got the "top" AM1 CPU. Claims 25W and 2GHz quad-core, but you can go dual 1.4GHz for less. Has Radeon HD 8400 video, noted as "too slow for a number of demanding games as of 2013". To my eyes it is the best video "card" I have used in over a decade (including a very expensive Matrox 4-head card).

[shooter]

COSMAC

yup, I just got so used to calling it cosmic, and well haven't booted it up in about 10yrs, loved 1802 with the 16 scratchpad registers.  only oldie moldy I have left, had a working DEC PDP 11, with platter!, an old IBM(model unknown), sparc II, still holding on to my original apple II but it was broke when I got it and no monitor.  sold off my tandy 1000, my commodore 64 and 128.  Still don't have need for a smart phone