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Offline chocopower

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Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« on: June 09, 2019, 12:34:15 pm »
Hi there?
I found this in ebay. Is safe to use as variac for tube amp work?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.es%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F323583637603
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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2019, 04:35:30 pm »
probably, the specs and my Spanish are sketchy  :laugh:
I'd make sure your "test" amp has a good fuse  :icon_biggrin:
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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2019, 04:57:23 pm »
I think that isn't usable to feed amplifiers

seems to be a voltage regulator not a real Variac

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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2019, 06:25:27 pm »
agree with franco: seems like a solid state phase control rather than a variable transformer.

i wouldn't use it.


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BTW: the word "variac" started out as a general radio trademark for their line of autotransformers (variable transformer) first filed in 1933. general radio is defunct and a holding co., Instrument Service & Equipment, Inc. owns the trademark now. 


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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 03:19:34 am »
Thanks.  Just what i thought.


I found this analysis (in English)
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.es%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F323583637603
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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 08:38:41 am »
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I found this analysis (in English)
Not my English.  :icon_biggrin:

That is the same link as in your original post.
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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2019, 09:11:01 pm »
Vary voltage up to 4000W. P = VI.. at 120V youre good up to 30watts of total current draw. (90% efficiency, 33.3 watts at 100% efficiency)

For small amplifiers this may be ok, but I would personally use a dedicated variac.

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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2019, 10:14:58 pm »
Vary voltage up to 4000W. P = VI.. at 120V youre good up to 30watts of total current draw. (90% efficiency, 33.3 watts at 100% efficiency)

For small amplifiers this may be ok, but I would personally use a dedicated variac.

????

you do mean 30 AMPS, yes? 4KW at 120V would be 33.33A.


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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2019, 11:31:20 pm »
Just by the size, this can't be a 3000VA autotransformer.

The fit of screws/holes does not promise precision construction.

I think it is a lamp-dimmer. Incandescent lamps, simple heaters, etc. "Some" wall-power motors can be run on a dimmer. (Others burn-up and fill the attic with smoke....)

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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2019, 08:07:10 pm »
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I found this analysis (in English)
Not my English.  :icon_biggrin:

That is the same link as in your original post.


Sorry....


https://owenduffy.net/blog/?p=11745
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Re: Cheap "variac". To good to be true?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2019, 11:58:55 pm »
It is a triac lamp-dimmer. And not done well.

Aside from electrical shock, this will BURN a power transformer.

 


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