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Offline reidgw

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The Front End Loader
« on: August 13, 2021, 09:19:45 pm »
It just occurred to me that I have built an amp and 4 pedals since I joined this board and haven't posted a photo or sound clip of anything yet. So, since the amp still doesn't have a face on it yet and I don't want y'all to see it nekkid, I'm sharing my "Front End Loader" tube overdrive.

It's really just a Persuader Deluxe built on a spare chunk of eyelet board. It was a fun warm-up project to prep me for building up my own 18 volt design and I learned a lot about what not to do lol!

Sound clips will come later.


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Re: The Front End Loader
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2021, 09:26:06 am »
Could you share the schematic?

I've always wondered about tubes in pedals -- what kind of power supply is needed, etc.

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Re: The Front End Loader
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2021, 10:57:04 am »
Could you share the schematic?

I've always wondered about tubes in pedals -- what kind of power supply is needed, etc.

I don't believe this is what you're looking for, but the schematic (and kit, if you prefer) can be had here:
https://www.amplifiedparts.com/products/effects-pedal-kit-mod-kits-persuader-deluxe-overdrive.

The tube runs on 9 volts and breaks up almost instantly when a signal hits it because there's practically no headroom. This is nowhere near a new concept - there's been commercial pedals over the years that do the same thing.

If you're gonna build one, I encourage you to buy what parts you can from https://hoffmanamps.com/MyStore/perlshop.cgi?ACTION=enter&thispage=partsenter.htm&ORDER_ID=!ORDERID! for giving us this fantastic message board  :occasion14:.

But on to your real question, the tube pedals I've seen are normally powered by a step-down transformer used in reverse. So, say you took a wall wart transformer... it gives you 9 volts at 500ma, right? Feed 9 VAC into the step down side of the transformer and you get 120 VAC out the other side at around 37ma which is plenty for a 12AX7 (It also voids the warranty on your wall wart  :icon_biggrin:). That is the transformer only, not the whole wall adapter circuit. This  would allow you to build just about any tube preamp circuit you can think of and slap it in a box. Hammond has a ton of different mini transformers which are well suited for said application.

I also read in a book by Nick Boscorelli that he uses an op-amp to achieve high voltage. It can also be done with a transistor and timer IC running off of DC. I have a copy of it here somewhere and if you're interested, I'll try to dig it up.

Each way has plusses and minusus. Transformers are kinda big and require DC-AC conversion or a dedicated power supply. Op Amps and transistors get hot. Most of this is still theory to me and I'm still learning myself. Hope this helps a little tho.

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Re: The Front End Loader
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2021, 09:09:24 am »
Thank you.

I've been thinking about tube based pedals for awhile, but have been too busy with other projects. 

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Re: The Front End Loader
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2021, 02:38:14 pm »
Could you share the schematic?

I've always wondered about tubes in pedals -- what kind of power supply is needed, etc.
Check this out for a more in depth look at a similar idea to what reidgw just mentioned:
Tube Pedal project 3 (el34world.com)

 


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