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Offline Ross

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Rectifier limiting resistors
« on: November 09, 2021, 06:52:37 am »
In the Amperex spec sheet for the 5AR4 tube, current limiting resistors are called for in capacitor filtered circuits though I've yet to see them in guitar amp schematics. Am I missing something?
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Re: Rectifier limiting resistors
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2021, 06:59:50 am »
Vintage transformers were designed to incorporate such resistance into the HT winding. With modern transformers, you have to check. It’s perceived as a bad thing for transformers to get warm in use, so manufacturers seem to try to reduce such copper losses where feasible. I’ve seen some modern amp designs with additional resistors.
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Re: Rectifier limiting resistors
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2021, 05:02:52 pm »
Am I missing something?


I take it you read 1/2 way down this page? http://www.valvewizard.co.uk/bridge.html


I think 'traditional' guitar amps didn't have these because tube rectifiers (and PTs) are generally rugged enough to handle abuse. (Plus current limiting resistors on the HT winding steal a bit of B+ voltage)
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Re: Rectifier limiting resistors
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2021, 07:09:15 pm »
Vintage transformers were designed to incorporate such resistance into the HT winding. ...
I think 'traditional' guitar amps didn't have these because tube rectifiers (and PTs) are generally rugged enough to handle abuse. ...

I used to own a 1964 Deluxe Reverb.  I measured its power transformer, and it had significantly higher winding resistance than modern replace PTs.  I also didn't get the undesired-high-B+ voltage, and found that amp expected 120vac on the primary.

I suspect the higher winding resistance gives a subtly softer attack to the sound, as it would contribute slightly to sag/compression.

 


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