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Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« on: May 03, 2022, 07:59:07 am »
Can i run these two 6.3vac secondaries in series to get 12.6vac?  Will this cause a house fire?


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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 08:07:15 am »
you'll have to make sure to wire in phase otherwise you'll add 6.3v and 6.3v and end up with 0v

do you have a link to that transformer? that would work as replacement to a 217vac/12.6vac toroid i've used that's no longer available

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2022, 08:24:28 am »

do you have a link to that transformer? that would work as replacement to a 217vac/12.6vac toroid i've used that's no longer available

like this? What is the result in volts, amps?



https://www.antekinc.com/as-05t200-50va-200v-transformer/
« Last Edit: May 03, 2022, 08:36:24 am by joesatch »

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2022, 08:39:39 am »
Yes, like ^that^ 12.6V 2A
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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2022, 10:29:00 am »
if i ran the 12.6v through a FWB what would be the DC voltage?

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2022, 10:43:53 am »
guessing around 17-18v un-loaded out of the bridge
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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2022, 11:39:20 am »
for 12vdc heaters would you use dropping resistors after the fwb or incorporate a voltage regulator to get it to 12vdc?

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2022, 12:17:27 pm »
when I build a PS for some need, I decide if I need regulated or just close.
I put FIL in the just close box
so I put a CRC after the bridge, then calculate the current load for my need.
then I calculate a "dummy load" resistor to simulate my need.  wire it up, and make measurements.
from there I decide if it's close enough, needs tweaking, or back to the drawing board.
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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2022, 01:08:20 pm »
voltage regulator it is!

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2022, 01:22:12 pm »
ya i'm powering (3) 12ax7

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2022, 02:22:32 pm »
OR....
Voltage doubler on one winding....

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Re: Running two PT secondary taps in series?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2022, 02:33:56 am »
Hi joesatch,
I have done DC supplies for ECC83/12AX7 on a number of occasions (in preamps). See attached pix.
I suggest an LM7812T with a diode on GRD terminal to give you 12.55V DC nominal.
You said 3 off 12AX7 requiring approx 150mA per tube 12.5V DC, so 3 tubes would require a little less than 500mA.
Shooter correctly approximated 17V to 18V DC from your 12.6V AC transformer taps.
The main reason I'm pitching in is that your LM7812T may need a heatsink, as say 17.5V -12.5V gives around 5V at approx 500mA comes in just under 2.5W. Shouldn't be a big problem, doesn't have to be big, but you need to secure it in the chassis.
I suggest 2.5W is quite warm and gets worse if you increase number of tubes.
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« Last Edit: May 05, 2022, 02:52:53 am by glass54 »
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