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AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« on: May 17, 2022, 12:49:34 am »
I wanted to build a Fender Deluxe Reverb, this is my version of it.  The circuit is largely stock – I added a NFB switch and a bright switch for each channel.  The chassis and layout is different to the Fender original, it worked out great and I’m happy with the result.


Part 1: The main board and filter/bias board. 

I wanted to move the filter caps inside so I designed the board as one piece and chassis to fit it which worked well because all the valves and circuitry pretty much lined up.  The only challenge was I couldn’t get a board longer than 300MM so I had to make two and join them.  For me this worked better than having two separate boards.  The CH1 signal wire ran a long way under the board and I was a bit nervous about it picking up noise so rather than have to try fix it after it was installed I used a shielded wire from the start and left the shield wire free to solder to the pre-amp ground when I install the board.  No idea if I dodged a bullet or not-but it’s a quiet channel…

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2022, 12:51:57 am »
Part 2:  Chassis.  The chassis I built myself based off an old broken Aussie amp I had laying around.  I was going to re-use the chassis but I thought I’d be smart and try fix it up a bit first and stuffed it so I used it as a template and made another one.  In hindsight there’s a couple of things I’d change, like only one angle on the front (more like the Fender amps), the 2-angle front gives you a lot of real-estate, but is really hard to make a faceplate for.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2022, 12:54:49 am »
Part 3:  Installing the board.  Sockets and heater wiring in, inputs and V1/V2 shielded signal wires installed, board installed with the board mounted hard-to-reach wires in place first.  I didn’t do all the wires to reduce the chance of messing up, and there is enough room to do the edge wires afterwards.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2022, 12:57:22 am »
Part 4:  Wire it all up.  Front panel connected.  Preamp, reverb transformer, and rear jacks wired up.  Power section completed, bias probes, speaker selector switch, and NFB switch wired.  Power Transformer and mains wiring completed.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2022, 12:59:15 am »
Part 5: Testing.  Gut shot and rear of chassis.  When I heard this amp for the first time I realized I made the right decision.  I know why a lot of people like this amp – the AB763 is a special.  This thing sounds amazing.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2022, 01:01:31 am »
Part 6: The head.  Time to make some boxes for it. 
Decided to use cane grill cloth and leather to cover it this time – why not?  I used some ‘roo skin on a small 2x8” speaker cab and it went really well – looked amazing, and seems really tough.  In hindsight the leather I chose was too thick, and the Cane grill cloth was very thick too – it caused me some grief but it’s on and looks good (if you don’t look too hard).  I’m using pine, dowelled/glued and with a vent in the top.  Has some Tasmanian Oak for mounting the panels too and for rails to hold up the chassis while mounting.  I’m using “T” nuts for mounting speakers and all the front panels so you won’t see any screws.  Rear panels I’m just using screws and cup washers.  Also have some black painted stainless mesh to put over back plate vent holes to protect valves a bit.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2022, 01:04:18 am »
Part 7:  More furniture…  I’m building a speaker cabinet also – a slant 2x10” the same as the head (brown leather and cane grill cloth).  Again, pine with Tasmanian Oak for mounting front/rear panels, and hardwood marine ply for baffle/rear plate.  I had some help from a friend that knows his stuff when it comes to covering amps, and we managed to do the corners well enough to not need to put metal corners on.  It wasn’t easy though, the leather was quite thick – it was flexible though so we could stretch it around a bit which helped.
Speakers are Jensen P10R-F (Fender licensed version).  2x 8ohm speakers in parallel, it’ll be a 4 ohm cabinet.  Why not?

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2022, 01:05:39 am »
Part 8: Finishing up.  Faceplate and rear plate added.  It took me a while to come up with a plan for this, it was very difficult.  I ended up using aluminum flashing, painted gold with water slide for the decals/lettering.  It looks OK at a distance, I figure no-one’s going to look too close.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2022, 01:22:16 am »
I'm really happy with this one.  Voltages are a bit high - probably because I'm using a slightly bigger transformer than normal (Hammond 290CEX instead of the usual 290BEX like used in the 5E3 etc.).  The JJ's will likely take it, not sure about other 6V6's...  Might have to look at trying different rectifiers to drop a little(?).  I'll see - it sounds good ATM so I'll just leave it be for a bit.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2022, 01:40:09 am »
Hi Amped,
Really nice work, esp the Turret board. You obviously put a lot of time into it.
...and really good quality photos  :worthy1:
How did you do the front panel (labels)?
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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2022, 01:55:57 am »
Hi Amped,
Really nice work, esp the Turret board. You obviously put a lot of time into it.
...and really good quality photos  :worthy1:
How did you do the front panel (labels)?
Kind regards
Mirek

Did you mean the "Deluxe Reverb-Amp" logo?  I just dug around the Interwebs and found some grainy pics and tidied them up in GIMP.  Made a faceplate design in a CAD program (QCAD) then carved it up into panels (to fit A4 paper size) and printed using laser printer on waterslide decal paper and re-assembled on the faceplate made out of thin aluminium with gold paint.  A few layers of gloss over the top and done.

It looks pretty ugly, there's nicer ways to do faceplates but I can live with it.  The imperfections kinda give it an old vibe too which I recon adds to it (it's how I'm justifying it to myself :-)

Attached some pics in case anyone finds them useful.  If you can't see the logo' it'll be because it's a transparent background and the logo is the same colour as the viewer background (i.e. Black and black background = can't see it...).

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2022, 05:23:07 am »
What a remarkably great build you have done!  It looks fantastic!  Good show!   :thumbsup:


Thanks for sharing the pictures and information.  Hope you will post a sound clip for us if you have the means to.


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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2022, 01:42:57 pm »
I think the faceplate is awesome! The lettering font is suitably vintage, its tall and looks like the old Telefunken font on the grey mic preamps, V72,V76 etc

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2022, 02:21:22 pm »
Why the bias adjust on the front panel..?
Very nice work, just wondered why the adjustment was on the front panel, not that, that’s a bad thing, your work is fantastic.
I also noticed it looks like a 1/4” jack, how do you adjust the bias?
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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2022, 11:16:52 pm »
What a remarkably great build you have done!  It looks fantastic!  Good show!   :thumbsup:


Thanks for sharing the pictures and information.  Hope you will post a sound clip for us if you have the means to.


With respect, Tubenit

Thanks a lot Tubenit.  You and the other guys on this forum have always been incredibly friendly and have helped me a lot with my knowledge and amp projects in the past.  I'll probably not be able to provide assistance to you in the same way you did me, but at least I can share my successes and some pretty pictures with you all, hopefully contributing a little to this awesome forum.

Unfortunately I don't really have a way to record anything at the moment but I am working on it, fingers crossed sometime in the near future...

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2022, 11:21:27 pm »
I think the faceplate is awesome! The lettering font is suitably vintage, its tall and looks like the old Telefunken font on the grey mic preamps, V72,V76 etc

Cheers Rontone, I appreciate it.  I can see all the defects, the perfectionist in me would like it to be perfect but the realist knows that I'd probably end up getting divorced if I spent any more time on it  :laugh:

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2022, 11:38:37 pm »
Why the bias adjust on the front panel..?
Very nice work, just wondered why the adjustment was on the front panel, not that, that’s a bad thing, your work is fantastic.
I also noticed it looks like a 1/4” jack, how do you adjust the bias?

Cheers dude, I wondered if anyone would mention the Bias trim, it's not exactly "normal" to see it on the front panel...

The original plan was for it in the chassis bottom between the PT and board, but it was tight and it would have been a right pain to set the bias with the chassis installed in the head.  Back was next idea - but there's a lot going on in the chassis at the back by the power section.  It lined up nicely there on the front, wires all lined up, inline with all the other pots, hardly anything crossing over, short-ish runs, heaps of space, just made a call and put it there.  It's easy to get to - some might argue too easy (i.e. wouldn't want people to fiddle with it) but it requires a screwdriver and the amp is for me and I'm not going to mess with it unless I'm setting the bias.  Figured it'd probably be fine there and gave me the chance to do a different graphic for it too  :icon_biggrin:

You're right, it does look like a 1/4" jack doesn't it?  It is a trim pot, a CTS 10KL pot (they are pretty nice) https://www.evatco.com.au/fender-10k-bias-potentiometer

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2022, 04:45:07 am »
Well, I hope at some point you're able to make a recording.  I'll bet it's a fine sounding amp!  Definitely one of the best looking ones I've seen posted in quite some time.


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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2022, 08:45:43 am »
Part 8: Finishing up.  Faceplate and rear plate added.  It took me a while to come up with a plan for this, it was very difficult.  I ended up using aluminum flashing, painted gold with water slide for the decals/lettering.  It looks OK at a distance, I figure no-one’s going to look too close.

Nice Build!

How did you get those water decals so perfect? Any special brands, inks or techniques?

In the late 60's/early 70's I did *many* (and I mean many) plastic models: cars, planes, tanks, motorcycles, etc. Back then those water decals were easy. You wet them, slid them off, and then placed and adjusted them. No tearing or stretching what so ever. For my last amp build, I acquired some ink jet water decals for the face plate/chassis and followed their instructions to a tee. Including spraying the sheet with acrylic post printing. Allowed for ample dry time for both print/spray. Things just kept stretching and tearing, and when I finally got one on, it looked horrible. So took it off, and settled for conventional decals. Obviously exposing the edge of the decal. Not as nice looking but does the job.

Thanks.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2022, 09:39:45 am »
Nice Build!

How did you get those water decals so perfect? Any special brands, inks or techniques?

In the late 60's/early 70's I did *many* (and I mean many) plastic models: cars, planes, tanks, motorcycles, etc. Back then those water decals were easy. You wet them, slid them off, and then placed and adjusted them. No tearing or stretching what so ever. For my last amp build, I acquired some ink jet water decals for the face plate/chassis and followed their instructions to a tee. Including spraying the sheet with acrylic post printing. Allowed for ample dry time for both print/spray. Things just kept stretching and tearing, and when I finally got one on, it looked horrible. So took it off, and settled for conventional decals. Obviously exposing the edge of the decal. Not as nice looking but does the job.

Thanks.

ttfn

Hey RadioComm, thanks for the compliment, sorry it took a while to respond…

Special brand-no I just used some from eBay, but in hind site there are some better quality brands, preferably a bit thicker to help with preventing them folding over or wrinkling.  I used to make a few plastic model kits when I was younger too, I’m guessing the transfers were thicker because they did seem easier back then.  The only down-side to thicker is the edges will be more defined under a clear layer, you can sand them a bit back but you have to be really careful and will need multiple layers to fill everything up to the one level.  I’ve read of people using this technique for guitar headstock logos with some success…

I used laser printer decal film paper instead of ink jet, it’s more colour-fast, no need for a layer of clear before wetting/applying.  I’m sure that makes it easier.  I also printed the decals full size of the faceplate so there’s no edges.  The paper was A4 and the faceplate was 600mm long so I couldn’t do it in one go, so printed it in 3 pieces that all matched up by choosing a place where it was easy to join like a line or some text that was easy to gauge and line up (you can see a line 1/2 way through the bias on the faceplate in the photo above).  Once the decals were cut to the right size I put them on one at a time letting them dry between each one so they didn’t move. 

I wet the faceplate, folded the decal where the bend in the faceplate was, soaked the decal so the film just started to move, applied the decal and backing to roughly where I wanted it, put 2 fingers top and bottom of edge to stay and slipped backing out from under the film slowly trying not to fold or move it too muck.  Then final adjustments to get it lined up on the faceplate and line it up with the previous decal.  A dry paper towel to remove the surface water (super gently so not to move the transfer) and leave it to dry before doing the next one.

It wasn’t all smooth sailing, large decals are hard to apply without wrinkling, folding over themselves, sometimes you can work them back out but if you get creases under the text that can cause the colour to crack or come off completely.  I printed and cut a few so that I had some spares.  I stuffed one and had to do it again, another one was touch-and-go but managed to get it back…. Be prepared to bug out if you have to, you can always do it again.

Once all dry, I put it in the oven for about 10 mins at ~150 degrees Celsius (if my memory serves right), and that set everything nicely.  I then cut out the holes with a pointed scalpel blade (being careful-they can tear), and added a few clear coats to seal it up (start with a really light coat, and follow paint instructions for re-coat and drying).  I found that you could lightly sand between coats with wet and dry sand paper to help keep it smooth (800/1200 was good - use wet, stops the paper clogging up).  I did find that I had to sand some holes out again because the extra paint thickness made the hole a bit small for some of the switches etc.

I used Rustoleum paint (gold and gloss clear), no primer needed as it was paint/primer combo paint.  I found the heating in the oven discoloured it a bit but that just added to the old feel of it so was ok with it.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2022, 03:51:52 pm »
You have an awesome build! Your wire dress and wiring are so nice. Chassis and cabinet came out perfect. Kudos!

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2022, 02:44:29 am »
You have an awesome build! Your wire dress and wiring are so nice. Chassis and cabinet came out perfect. Kudos!

Cheers Johno9, appreciate it mate.  Sounds pretty freak'n amazing too - blows me away every time I turn it on that I could build something like that.  Super stoked...

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2022, 07:50:15 am »
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Hi Amped. Your instructions couldn't have been more perfect. Just added them to my collection of notes. A million thanks.

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Re: AB763 head and 2x10" extension build
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2022, 09:26:08 am »
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Hi Amped. Your instructions couldn't have been more perfect. Just added them to my collection of notes. A million thanks.

ttfn

No problem, hopefully my ramblings will be useful for you.  All the best for your future projects.

 


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