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West Labs amp.
« on: December 21, 2022, 01:01:44 pm »
Seasons Greetings. It has been a very long time since I have posted on this forum. I have a very old West Laboratories. I'm trying to find someone who is familiar with West amps and the history. I think it is the Grande but that's just a guess. I have not found a matching schematic yet.It uses Dynaco III mono block Hifi amp transformers and the circuit board that holds the phase inverter tube but they did not use the tube rectifier or choke. 2 x KT88 or 6550 OP tubes and a single 12ax7 preamp circuit.

Thanks . Regards Ed
« Last Edit: December 21, 2022, 02:29:13 pm by sluckey »

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2022, 02:07:18 pm »
How 'bout this? Found it on their Facebook page in a Google search.


Edit: I'd ditch the death cap setup and use a proper cord set with a ground.


https://www.facebook.com/170878092963773/posts/does-anyone-have-a-grande-schematic/2019781591406738/
« Last Edit: December 21, 2022, 02:30:10 pm by JPK »
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2022, 02:26:15 pm »
That's exactly like the Fender AB763 except for the UL OT. I wonder which came first. Can you share some hi-rez pics?
A schematic, layout, and hi-rez pics are very useful for troubleshooting your amp. Don't wait to be asked. JUST DO IT!

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2022, 04:52:03 pm »
JPK thank you very much for the schem.  I will see how close it is to the amp.  Sluckey I will try to post some pics tonight.

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 02:38:16 pm »
One pic at a time?

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2022, 02:40:07 pm »
Ok. 2 at a time works.

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2022, 02:41:35 pm »
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2022, 02:44:44 pm »
I hope they are clear enough

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2022, 02:46:38 pm »
Last 2 thanks for looking

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2022, 04:19:32 pm »
Hmmm. That's not pics. That's postage stamps.   :icon_biggrin:
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2022, 04:51:20 pm »
I will try to post again with larger photos :w2:

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2022, 05:16:13 pm »
That's ok. I've seen enough.
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2022, 05:39:16 pm »
Thanks for looking Steve. Have you seen any of these before?? I can't tell if it's a clone or just very early model.

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2022, 06:09:12 pm »
I never heard of this amp before your post. Google turned up some good pics of the Grande.
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2022, 06:13:13 pm »
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2022, 09:33:26 pm »
I hope they are clear enough

Hoffman has to conserve server space, and is not a great place to upload your pictures.

High resolution (aka "large file size") can be uploaded to your account at Imgur.com.  Then you can copy the "Direct Link" and paste it here using the "Insert Image" tool.

... the circuit board that holds the phase inverter tube ...

This goes to show how some comments about "good/bad printed circuit boards" may be 50 years out of date.

Usually, we read that "board mounted tube sockets are bad."  Well, the kind used here (and by Dynaco) are the bad ones.  Inserting/removing the tube will stress the board.

MESA uses the good board-mounted sockets today (though their older products had the bad sockets).  Their sockets are large and apply any stress over a larger area of the board, reducing the risk of damaging traces.  These larger sockets also have better insulation between pins, and are great for preventing arcing & measurement accidents.
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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2022, 01:39:12 am »
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That's exactly like the Fender AB763 except for the UL OT. I wonder which came first.
going with Fender on this one  :icon_biggrin:
Went Class C for efficiency

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Re: West Labs amp.
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2022, 08:16:13 am »
Thanks for allowing the post and comments. I was offered the unit because of an interest in Grand Funk Railroad. Legend has it that West was the favorite amps for GFR. Thanks again
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