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P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« on: January 11, 2023, 03:13:25 pm »
So I originally started this project a year ago by purchasing a Pacific OT for a brownface Deluxe build.

Somewhere between then and a few months ago when I started buying parts, I misremembering that and believed I had been building a 5E3 Deluxe all along.

So the only thing that actually matters is that I just realized I have a brownface OT with a 8K primary instead of the tweed with a 12K primary.

In my limited experience regarding transformers, I'm somewhat confident this should be fine, but what effects could I expect with this mismatch?

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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2023, 03:33:39 pm »
So if it's an 8 ohm secondary run a 4 ohm speaker to raise primary reflected impedance? Something like that. You can adjust the mismatch of the primary at the secondary, inversely if I remember correctly. Or just get the right OT.
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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2023, 05:56:11 pm »
So the only thing that actually matters is that I just realized I have a brownface OT with a 8K primary instead of the tweed with a 12K primary.
Not a problem. Carry on. I've never seen a 5E3 OT spec'ed for 12K. Why do you say that?

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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2023, 09:20:40 pm »
So the only thing that actually matters is that I just realized I have a brownface OT with a 8K primary instead of the tweed with a 12K primary.
Not a problem. Carry on. I've never seen a 5E3 OT spec'ed for 12K. Why do you say that?

It's what the Pacific spec sheet says.


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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2023, 11:45:54 pm »
I'm no expert, but I've never seen a 5E3 OT with 12k CT.  You may want to contact pacific to see if it is a typo.  I've certainly read trheads with people using 6.6k and 8k. I hope everything works out for ya!

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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2023, 08:44:43 am »
Do a turns ratio test to see what it actually is.

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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2023, 02:04:49 pm »
The Hammond 5E3 spec OT differs to the Pacific, 8k5
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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2023, 03:48:38 pm »
12k would suit p-p 6K6 at 10W. Maybe Leo found some 6K6 iron surplus at a great price?

The "20W" could be 10W at 50Hz and 20W at 70.7Hz same THD. (Guitar vs full-range.)

Usually speaker and tweed-color make more difference than impedance.

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Re: P2P Tweedle Dee - OT Mixup
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2023, 03:09:20 am »
There’s a thread over at TAG where the unusual transformer specs chosen by Pacific is commented on https://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=435348#p435348
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