Author Topic: any zappa fans around? (Read 23749 times)

jasperok · « **on:** March 23, 2009, 07:24:31 am »

recently watched his baby snakes film that he made - a good watch indeed but there were a few points where he is really rockin out on guitar sounding awesome - i want to pick up an albumn or two but there are so many i don't know which to chose

can anyone reccomend an albumn that has less of the experimental spounds and mayhem and he really gets down to it on electric guitar?

thanks

tubesornothing · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:16:26 am »

"shut up 'n play yer guitar"

I am sure LC will chime in here...

AZJimC · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2009, 08:30:14 am »

Yep! I have the original "shut up and Play yer guitar" from Barking Pumpkins records, along with many others. I saw him live in Oklahoma, way back, huge band, hell of a show! Everyone was tossing frisbies, and one hit his guitar. The huge band just stopped instantly, and Frank stared while the guards went into the crowd, and hauled a guy off to the back. He said, "Any further objects thrown upon the stage will end the show" and turned to his band, and they picked up on the exact note they stopped on, and continued the chaotic music they were playing at the time!

Zappa was a madman, and a really exotic guy, but you gotta love his picking!

Later,
Jim

LooseChange · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:10:34 am »

Shut up and play yer guitar is great. In the same light: Frank Zappa Guitar
Must have: Apostrophe
A great bootleg: The Eyes of Osaka.
I love Filmore East 1971 for some great comedy.

Frankenamp · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:22:48 am »

I have a soft spot for "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" , One size fits all is kinda funny too

Ritchie200 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:08:51 am »

Great googely moogely, who is Frank Zappa?

Jim

panhead · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:22:28 pm »

One Size Fits All is great! Songs like Inca Roads, Can't Afford No Shoes, Pojama People - the're all great. Napolean Murphy Brock really shines on that album.

Theres' a band called Project Object that features Ike Willis and a bunch of younger musicians who are just smoking! I've seen them numerous times. Also hung out with The Grandmothers, featuring former Mothers Don Preston, Bunk Gardiner, Jimmy Carl Black ("the Indian of the group"), and Roy Estrada. Man, those guys were funny.

LooseChange · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:22:09 pm »

Project Object is awesome. Like them better than Zappa does Zappa.

panhead · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:09:53 am »

Quote from: LooseChange on March 24, 2009, 05:22:09 pm

Project Object is awesome. Like them better than Zappa does Zappa.

Me too! Andre and Seahag can really play, and Ike does a great "Black Napkins". Napolean M. B. makes an appearance once in a while, too.

panhead · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2009, 02:51:26 pm »

can anyone reccomend an albumn that has less of the experimental spounds and mayhem and he really gets down to it on electric guitar?

For starters:

Zappa/Mothers Live at the Fillmore - June 1971
Hot Rats
Chunga's Revenge
The Grand Wazoo
Tinselltown Rebellion
Bongo Fury
One Size Fits All
Apostrophy
Overnight Sensation
Zoot Allures
Live In New York
Roxy and Elsewhere
Joe's Garage
Sheik Yer Booty

That's a good start - about 20% of his work

I really like Uncle Meat, We're Only In It For The Money, Aboslutely Free, and Weasels Rip My Flesh, but those all contian some pretty experimental stuff.

Check out the movie "200 Motels", too.

bigsbybender · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:54:01 pm »

Of all of them I listen to "Sheik Yer Booty" probably the most...Followed by "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" There is an instrumental tune on it called "Orange County Lumber Truck" that I just love. It actually musically gives you the image of driving on the pacific coast highway. The song "Oh No" makes me laugh too, it was obviously a dig at some of the poorly half crooned pop songs that were coming out about the same time as this record. With mocking the lack of content of pop songs he gave the song no real content, but it's incredibly cleverly written....

Don't forget Joe's Garage, where there's a shout out to our hobby "And a cheesy little amp with a sign on the front that said Fender Champ"

j.

panhead · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:10:09 am »

There's even a doo-wop album "Cruisin' With Ruben and the Jets". My band still jokes about the Fender Champ reference in "Joe's Garage", since I've built so many of them. "Orange County Lumber Truck" is a great song. Damn, they're all great! I love "King Kong Variations" and "Mister Green Genes" from "Uncle Meat". "Call Any Vegetable" from "Absolutely Free" is cool. I love the "Rutabaga - rutabaga - rutabaga" chorus. In fact, here's a link to a live performance by "Zappa Does Zappa featuring Dweazil and Napolean Murphy Brock:

Here's the original with the Mothers with Flo and Eddy, but the quality of the video isn't that great.

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LooseChange · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:28:51 am »

I love the cigarette stuck in the strings. I like the Flo and Eddy stuff. That's why I recommend The Mothers at Filmore East 1971. Flip side has some awesome Billy Preston Solos.

I haven't added much because there is too much to comment on. Panhead is doing a great job!

Just to confirm...
Live in New York is great. Joe's Garage is a must.
One Size Fits

Ritchie200 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:57:12 am »

Hey, I heard that Frank Zappa and the Mothers, were at the best place in town. But some stupid with a flare gun, burned the place to the ground.

Ok, ok, I'll shut up and contribute something meaningful to the discussion... I posted this a while back and it did not get too many hits. The site is called Wolfgangs Vault: http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/ If you are a classic rock guy like me and also someone that craves the live stuff over the studio, like me - this site is too cool! All old and a lot of new COMPLETE (for the most part) concert audio. The list of concerts and artists is staggering. Some you have to pay for,but most are free. You just have to register and they will then send you email notifications for all the newly discovered footage that they post. A few Zappa live gems including some Mothers stuff from '66 and '70.

Frank was the man!
Jim

panhead · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:46:31 am »

Flip side has some awesome Billy Preston Solos.

I believe you mean Don Preston. "Mothers At Filmore East 1971" is one of my favorite albums of all time. Flo and Eddy are hysterically funny - the whole skit about groupies is classic. Not a bad version of Peaches and Regalia, either. I used to work with a guy who was a guitarist and music fan and also a born-again Christian. Even he said the only regret he has about finding God is that he can't listen to "Mothers At Filmore East 1971" anymore.

LooseChange · « **Reply #15 on:** March 26, 2009, 12:34:47 pm »

Yes.. Don Preston! (sorry about that)
Have you heard the Mud Shark interviews?

panhead · « **Reply #16 on:** March 26, 2009, 01:44:40 pm »

Quote from: LooseChange on March 26, 2009, 12:34:47 pm

Yes.. Don Preston! (sorry about that)
Have you heard the Mud Shark interviews?

No. Got a link?

BTW, did you know Lowell George was a Mother until FZ fired him. Then he went on to form Little Feat.

Hey, jasperok. Where are you? Did we scare you away?

justinbelshe · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:33:39 pm »

I've been a Zappa fan since I first heard him in the 70s. If you haven't read The Real Frank Zappa Book, you owe it to yourself to do so.

In my motorcycle club, we have a little "CD of the month" sub-organization where each of us sends out a dozen CDs once a year. It's my turn this month, and I had to include "Jazz Discharge Party Hats" and "Titties and Beer"! I could easily have filled the entire compilation with FZ tunes, but felt I needed to restrain myself so I could fit in some Tom Waits, Yma Sumac, White Stripes, Black Lodge Singers, Slim Gaillard, Deadbolt, et al.

LooseChange · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2009, 06:33:53 am »

Mud Shark interviews are on the album, "Playground Psychotics". It's very funny.

panhead · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2009, 09:54:55 am »

In my motorcycle club, ....

Blow it out your a$$, motorcycle man!

Terry Bozio from FZ's Titties and Beer

justinbelshe · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2009, 01:27:44 pm »

Quote from: panhead on March 30, 2009, 09:54:55 am

In my motorcycle club, ....

Blow it out your a$$, motorcycle man!

Terry Bozio from FZ's Titties and Beer

Haha, yeah, that line is one reason I included that song.

DEVIL! LET GO OF YOUR PICKLE!

bigsbybender · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2009, 10:54:55 pm »

Frank DO they pay you good for the things you do?

Bozzio I can't complain when the checks come through...

PapaMidnite · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2009, 07:06:53 pm »

My Guitar wants to kill your mama [Brings back memories] Zappa Hollowen night Hartford Ct 1978 ,

Jima321 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 14, 2009, 08:36:12 pm »

Dynamo Hum--need I say more!

EL34 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:34:17 am »

I have an original Vinyl copy of Reuben and the Jets that I bought a very long time ago.

I don't think there was ever a better Do-Wop record made.

panhead · « **Reply #25 on:** April 21, 2009, 11:37:44 am »

Quote from: EL34 on April 18, 2009, 11:34:17 am

I have an original Vinyl copy of Reuben and the Jets that I bought a very long time ago.

I don't think there was ever a better Do-Wop record made.

No arguement from me there!

FZ covered all the bases.

Fresh_Start · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2009, 01:53:32 pm »

I recently stumbled on a CD version of "Overnight Sensation" - my first Zappa LP from 7th grade maybe. The vinyl is pretty much worn out and my turntable is around here somewhere... anyway, hadn't listened to it for a long while. The guitar solo in "Movin' to Montana" is AWESOME to my humble ears. The lyrics to "The Slime" are perfect - even more so today.

BTW seeing Don Pardo in the flesh and a white Tux, top hat & matching cane do the intro to "The Illinois Enema Bandit" was priceless! :D (One of the shows "Live In New York" was recorded at.) No warm up band. Frank was on stage 5 minutes after the stated starting time and playing 2 minutes later. Unbelievably tight live performance, even while kicking a stuffed poodle around stage.

Chip

P.S. If someone knows how Zappa got that wonderful snarling guitar tone in "Movin' to Montana" I'd sure appreciate any tips. It starts with an SG and an early Marshall (plexi?) but there's more to it than that...

Frankenamp · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2009, 11:26:48 pm »

Yippe Yi Yo Ti Yeaaaa....

(gonna be a dental floss tycoon...)

panhead · « **Reply #28 on:** July 03, 2009, 06:24:16 am »

P.S. If someone knows how Zappa got that wonderful snarling guitar tone in "Movin' to Montana" I'd sure appreciate any tips. It starts with an SG and an early Marshall (plexi?) but there's more to it than that...

I thought he recorded "Overnight Sensation", "Apostrophy" and "Zoot Allures" through a Pignose.

He also used a Strat that Hendrix torched. One of Jimi's roadies got it for him and he repaired it, and also installed some kind of a pickup in the fretboard with a blend control. Listen to the solo in "Wind Up Working In A Gas Station". You can hear this faint crazy solo behind the prominent solo. It's not really musically related, because it's the notes from behind the fingers. It's blended in just enough to be audible and adds a mean effect.

Inca Roads · « **Reply #29 on:** January 10, 2010, 11:34:19 pm »

Ok, I know this thread is dead, but I love Frank's music and have to put in my 2 cents. My favorite band of his was what I think of as the '74 band - Ruth, Chester, George Duke, et. al. One Size Fits All is a masterpiece, of course. Roxy and Elsewhere is a gem as well. If you like those discs as much as I do, then you owe it to yourself to get YCDTOSA Vol. 2 - recorded in Helsinki after they had been on the road for a while, the band is tight as can be and Frank's guitar wails through his Super Lead plexi like he is a man possessed. Also, if you like the Grand Wazoo/ Waka Jawaka stuff then Imaginary Diseases is a must have as well.

bnwitt · « **Reply #30 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:25:07 am »

I'm surprised Dweezil and Moon Unit haven't chimed in here.

slavax · « **Reply #31 on:** January 22, 2010, 03:34:17 pm »

"His little feet got long and flexible"

firemedic · « **Reply #32 on:** July 28, 2011, 09:35:34 am »

A bunch of Zappa freaks, here on the forum. Imagine that.

Fresh_Start · « **Reply #33 on:** February 03, 2012, 10:02:00 pm »

OK friends, what band were Flo & Eddie in before they ran amok with Zappa & the Mothers? They certainly didn't sing lyrics like "Magdalena" on the album "Just Another Band from LA" in that other band (warning: lyrics rated PG-13 at best)

YouTube has lo-fidelity audio for Magdalena but I scratched the link - it's delightfully nasty but this is a family forum

Cheers,

Chip

P.S. yes, I know this is an ancient thread...

LooseChange · « **Reply #34 on:** February 04, 2012, 06:55:25 am »

Turtles?
By the way, I'm not a Zappa fan. :-)

Fresh_Start · « **Reply #35 on:** February 04, 2012, 07:29:28 am »

Darn it! I meant to exclude LC from answering the question. Of course it was The Turtles!

THE TURTLES - Happy Together (1967)

Not quite like the work they did with Zappa...

Chip

LooseChange · « **Reply #36 on:** February 04, 2012, 12:42:16 pm »

Sorry, should have held off.
Frank Zappa and the Mothers at Fillmore East (1971) is an absolute classic.
If you can (I mean everybody), give it a listen.

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