got a pair of weber Texas 10's for my vibrolux

[phsyconoodler]

I just got a great deal on a pair of Weber Texas 10" ceramic speakers to try in my vibrolux.The description says loud,crunchy,early breakup.
Anyone used these before?Don't really know what to expect.Too cheap to pass up.You know those kind of deals!

 Damn,I'm turning into a gear junky!

[Platefire]

Phsyco

I don't know a thing about the Webers but I would be interested in hearing about your vibrolux!
Is it your build? is is stock? and what do you like about it? Plate

BTW-I can't pass up a good deal on gear either. so go the GAS!

[theundeadelvis]

 Damn,I'm turning into a gear junky!

It's a horrible affliction that we fall victim to eventually. The only thing to do at this point is keep feeding the addiction! I recently picked up two 10" alnico Jensens, but unfortunately one has bad voice coil rub.

[bigdaddy]

Some people love Weber speakers, some people hate them. I have a few that sounded OK and some that were horrible.

Your Vibrolux will be a heavy beast with those speakers in it. But it will also be much louder. Take the average fender 10" speaker at the most 98db or less (depending on the model like either a Jensen C10N or an Oxfart)and put in a speaker similar to a JBL at 102+db and you have a much louder amp. But according to what I think I know about the Texas line they breakup early. So either you'll have a loud muddy mess or a beautiful singing amp that cuts through the mix at a lower volume level.

Some people like to mix them because they have such distinctive sounds, like a Texas and a Michigan for instance.

[phsyconoodler]

Hey Plate,
  My vibrolux is the Fender Custom Vibrolux reissue.When it was stock(yes,I modded it!) it was too bright,broke up wayyyyy too early and was noisy as hell.It had no negative feedback and had reverb in both channels.
  I liked the amp but it was only really good for overdriven  tones.It had almost no clean headroom.So I modded it to Vibro-Verb specs.
Now it's less bright,actually has some clean headroom and breaks up at a sane volume level.Before it was at 2 on the dial even with low output humbuckers.And dead quiet too.Reverb is very good.Not as good as my own amps unfortunately!
  It had two of the Eminence Alnico 'blue' speakers.Unfortunately one developed  voice coil rub so I subbed in a Celestion vintage 10.Nice match for speakers!
  I was totally happy and not really in need of hand-wiring it just yet.
Then these Weber Texas 10's show up and I jsut had to try them.
  WOW! Is all I can say.These Texas 10"s are darker(not a bad thing with this amp)Louder by a fair amount and still as crunchy as you want them to be,but it's the TONE that's so incredible now that these heavy-magnet speakers aren't going anywhere!
  They are absolutely lovely in this amp!The neck humbucker on my Godin LG (Semour Duncan Jazz)is perfect now.Single coil guitars love this amp now.
   I had tried a set of these Weber's in an 18 watt but they don't seem to like EL84's.With 6L6's all I can say is  

[jojokeo]

>>Some people love Weber speakers, some people hate them. I have a few that sounded OK and some that were horrible.
You can't like everything in a line of speakers no matter the manufacturer. They are all developed for one thing or another to suit your applications. Vintage line has closer tolerances in the voice coil assemblies/motors and stronger magnets while Signatures have less of each so you get what you pay for.

>>Unfortunately one developed  voice coil rub so I subbed in a Celestion vintage 10.Nice match for speakers!
I like the G10 Vintage speakers too, but the new Gold has found a place on top of the Celestion ladder for me in a 10" speaker.

For the voice coil rub, something for you to try:
Lay the speaker on its back with the cone facing up and with a scalpel, carefully cut out the dustcap, leaving about 1/16" of dustcap where it is glued to the cone. This is important because the voice coil wires pass through this point and you want to make sure you don't cut them. Next, use a vacuum cleaner or clean, dry pressurized air to suck or blow the dust and other debris out of the gap. If you hold the speaker upside down with the cone facing downward it will probably help getting the dust and debris out. Next, take a 3x5 index card and cut it into a strip that is the correct length so that you can form it into a circle and stick it down into the gap between the inside of the voice coil and the outside of the pole. This will help form the voice coil back into a circle. Next, lay the speaker back down on its back. Take a Q-tip or small paint brush and dip it into a bottle of acetone (finger nail polish remover). Spread a small amount of this acetone on a couple of the rings of the spider, which is the brownish/yellow corrugated disk attached to the backside of the cone at the base of the basket. Next, place a jar lid or other disk on the cone where the dustcap was and let the speaker set overnight. The lid or disk will prevent dust from getting into the gap overnight, and the acetone causes the spider to relax and reposition slightly, thus repositioning the voice coil. The next day, remove the lid and the index card strip and see if you still have a rub. If you do, try the acetone again, same procedure. If, after a couple of tries, it seems hopeless, then professional reconing is the only resolve. I think it's worth trying though, to preserve the value of the original speaker.

[theundeadelvis]

Jojokeo - I think I'm going to give your method of VC rub repair a try, but one question. How do you replace/repair the dust cap when you're done? Sorry to hijack your thread psychonoodler!

*edit* wow, had some bad grammar there.

[phsyconoodler]

There's no real vintage value with the Eminence Alnico speaker,so any attempt to fix it would be fine.
  If it fails,then I'll get it reconed.
Damn these Weber's sound nice in this amp!

[jojokeo]

>>How do you replace/repair the dust cap when you're done? Sorry to hijack your thread psychonoodler!

Yes, replace it w/ a bead of silicone or = kind/type of glue or gluing compound.

[phsyconoodler]

Strange how an amp can sound great at home but live it just doesn't do it.I played the Vibrolux live last night and it was less than stellar.It was a bit dark and boomy with the Weber speakers.But,I had it tilted back on the legs and I don't usually do that.I used my strat and a Les Luis pedal.The pedal was not great with the amp last night either.
   I'm giving it one more chance on thursday evening and then the other 10"s go back in if I'm not happy.
Quite a difference from living room to live.Maybe it's just getting used to it.

[bluestone]

Phsyco,
I have had similar things happen and not even move the amp out of the room..... We practice on the same stage, same room, same people...Every week....
One day it sounds so, so and the next it sounds dialed right in....
I dunno.....My "Old" ears????

[phsyconoodler]

Tried it again last night at a birthday party jam.I still can't decide if I like it or not.
  I'm putting the other 10's back in.at least there was no decision about the tone.They sounded great all the time.And way lighter too.This feels like hauling around a Twin.Not really that bad but the Alnico's really are light weight.

 I want a set of alnico Weber speakers but can't decide which ones.Too damn fussy I guess.

[jojokeo]

 I like efficient, bright, and clear so Blue Pup or 10A125P both in 30w version, are personal favs. in Weber line. I feel that when you need that clarity & brightness it's there and if not, you can always dial things down. my $ .02

[theundeadelvis]

Give you a good deal on a pair of Jensen P10q's. One has some VC rub. 

[6G6]

The last time I looked, Weber sells dust caps.
Just center it over to VC and glue it on.
Don't use enough glue that it can run in under the cap and stick the VC! 

[GuitarPilot65]

I replaced my DRRI's stock Eminence speaker with a used Weber 12F150-B (8Ω, 25W).  This speaker has a much "fuller" sound with more bottom end.  Especially awesome with single-coil guitar in "Vibrato" channel.  I've been extremely pleased with it.