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Offline rdrgtr

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plate to cathode cap
« on: September 25, 2010, 12:05:24 am »
I noticed something the other day when I was looking at a preamp circuit (dumble I think).  The circuit called for a 100pf cap from the plate resistor to the cathod.  Basically the cap was between pins 1 & 3 on the first tube stage.  High freq. roll off?  Just curious. :huh:

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2010, 07:25:08 am »
Yeah, it rolls off some of the highs to "smooth" out the tone.

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2010, 09:09:45 am »
Any benefit of that application over a small cap across the plate resistor?  (sometimes called a "snubber" IIRC)

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2010, 10:01:49 am »
Snubbers are usually used to control high frequency oscillations.  The down side is it may snub into the audio band.  Often high gain amps need a snubber and can fortunately afford some hi frequency attenuation.

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2010, 10:03:13 am »
Well, I'll tell you what I've done. Such as on the TOS build, I tried BOTH ways on different gain stages. Sometimes I like the plate to cathode ......... sometimes I preferred across the plate resistor.

I have a cap substitution box that makes quick work of experimenting that way.

I could not find a particular guideline for me other than simply listening to it.

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2010, 06:59:32 pm »
In principle it makes little difference. Plate is "hot", either B+ or cathode is "pretty near AC ground", so it is a simple plate-to-ground high-roll-off.

You might hear a difference one way or the other.

I suspect in many cases you can just go wherever is easiest.

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010, 08:21:28 am »
Plate-to-cathode (or plate to ground) is better from the point of view of PSRR, but in practice it makes little difference.

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Re: plate to cathode cap
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2010, 10:09:27 am »
Or tie a cap across the plate resistor as in some Fender silver-face amps.

 


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