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Silly childhood guilty pleasure?
« on: July 24, 2011, 02:12:17 pm »
After preaching to my wife and kids about how everything today is nothing compared to when I was growing up.....  I always thought that Johnny Quest was one of the best all time cartoons ever created.  Of course I've told my wife and kids this over and over.  So, my wonderful wife went out and bought me the Johnny Quest box set.  Ha!  It's still as good as I remember!!!  Back when men were men and the bad guys got shot!  It was actually quite controversial back then.  I remember there were all sorts of Mom's-against-TV-violence type groups that were trying to get it taken off the air.  My 15 and 18 year old daughters just rolled their eyes when I got it, but admitted it was pretty good when I forced them to watch it!  

So, my question for all my amp buddies is this: Is it wrong to still enjoy a cartoon from my childhood? :happy1:

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Re: Silly childhood guilty pleasure?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 02:59:30 pm »
So, my question for all my amp buddies is this: Is it wrong to still enjoy a cartoon from my childhood? :happy1:

Nope!

I loved it too! Komodo Dragon episode is my favorite.

How about Under Dog?  Great theme song.

Super Chicken was great too. Again, love the theme song.

Or the strangest of the strange, Hoppity Hopper.     :l2:

Your a creative guy, and cartoons are art, so.....    :think1:     it's all part of the right brain thing.     


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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 08:18:07 pm »
> Johnny Quest was one of the best

No "h" in Jonny.

You have seen the Venture Brothers episodes?
Obviously the whole premise has JQ in the background.
Sometimes the scene layout is homage.


But one episode finds a sandy-hair old drugged-up paranoid at the bottom of the sea, hiding from a too-exciting childhood. IIRC the reference is not explicit... but then the VB writers realized that their network now owned the Quest series and they could flog it without royalty. Race Bannon dies senselessly and stinky, Hadji is a computer engineer, Jonny is in a support group for former boy wonders, Dr. Z is retired and serves tea to ex-enemies.

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2011, 10:51:27 pm »
Doctor Who.  

I can't help it - I grew up watching Tom Baker on PBS every day at 5:00.  I got my first digital watch so I could set the alarm for quarter to 5 and not miss anything.  I recently asked my mom to make me another Doctor scarf, but this time to make it about three times as long as the one she made me back when I was eight (I'm a lot taller these days, so the one she made back then just doesn't cut it!)  

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It has been great, though, watching the new series with my nephews lately.  They love them, and (having re-watched most of the old series recently) I have to admit the writing, acting, and the effects on the new ones are a LOT better!  (Oh, and I have a major crush on the current companion, Amy Pond.  And NO, it is not because she is one of the hottest women I've ever seen.  Well, not much of that.  It's because she can take care of herself, and she is a real person to a degree that few of the Doctor's companions have ever been.)  

(Really, it's not because Karen Gillian is a babe.)  


(Honestly.)  




(Well, maybe a little bit.)

And to answer your question; no, there is nothing wrong with a nostalgic love for things from your childhood, as long as you don't let it get in the way of falling in love with new things.


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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 12:21:51 am »
FIRST: NOTHING wrong at all about enjoying childhood favorites. Sadly some age not so well, others are a testament to time.

Toons? Go for it.

Dr. Who? Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison all did well IMHO. I've only seen a handful of William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton.... Kinda hard to find a complete collection of doctors 1 & 2. I've also seen a bit of #6 Sylvester McCoy.... not much mind you. Then nothing really until the series was re-introduced. The new season in which we are in the middle of a break in (and being offered up for sale already, or almost already) seems to be more action based than the early stuff. Yeah things are snazzier with the new budgets they have, but they did as good as possible with the dinky budgets they had for the original series.

Doctor Who.  

I can't help it - I grew up watching Tom Baker on PBS every day at 5:00.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 11:49:35 am »
Sorry PRR, I don't think I can watch that one!  Don't mess with apple pie, Chevy, and Jonny (without an "H"!)!  Some station on my satellite was spoofing Space Ghost.  Hey, Space Ghost was cool!  I also liked the Gerry Anderson puppet shows like Fireball XL5 and Stingray.  And since we are all confessing, I have the complete series of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Man From Uncle, and another fav British show - The Avengers!

Dr. Who...  I have all of the Tom Baker episodes.  I'll have to scan and post my autographed pic from him.  My fav being Key to Time, which was a whole season.  Mary Tamm was a babe!  And the Dr's equal being a Time Lord herself.  DOn't forget K9!  The best Dr. in the franchise!  My daughters dabbled in knitting and I always requested a Baker length scarf, but they never got that far!  The cheezy effects and the over-the-top acting of the Brits, make it endearing!  Kind of like the original Star Trek.  My oldest daughter likes the new Doctor as well.  I have not watched any, but - Karen Gillan looks a lot like the second Romana (who also became Baker's wife, for a short while...), Lolla Ward.  Baker trivia: Tom Baker's voice is the fourth most recognized voice in GB behind the Queen, Thatcher, and Blair.

It's nice to know I am not alone!
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I really did not watch the Dr. because Mary Tamm was a babe.

Honestly.

Ok, maybe she did make an already awesome show even better!
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 01:08:22 pm »
The Avengers!

Yes, Yes, Yes!

Mrs. Emma Peal!!!      :icon_biggrin:


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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 04:46:43 pm »
Dr. Who? Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison all did well IMHO. I've only seen a handful of William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton.... Kinda hard to find a complete collection of doctors 1 & 2. I've also seen a bit of #6 Sylvester McCoy.... not much mind you. Then nothing really until the series was re-introduced. The new season in which we are in the middle of a break in (and being offered up for sale already, or almost already) seems to be more action based than the early stuff. Yeah things are snazzier with the new budgets they have, but they did as good as possible with the dinky budgets they had for the original series.

Well, one of the reasons it is hard to find Troughton and Hartnell serials is that many of them were lost.  The BBC used to have a policy of reusing or trashing old tapes, so huge numbers of their shows from the 50's and 60's are lost forever.  The only reason we have record of the regeneration from Hartnell to Troughton is because a clip was used for a children's variety show (Blue Peter), and the producer for Blue Peter saved all of their old tapes herself.  Some of the old serials have been found, either in the homes of production staff, or in the vaults of overseas stations that had bought versions of some Doctor Who episodes.  Even up through John Pertwee there is one missing serial. 

There are many things I love about the original serials, no doubt about it.  But on occasion the writing was a bit sub par.  Particularly after Producer John Nathan Turner decided they had to use mostly new, inexperienced writers. 


Dr. Who...  I have all of the Tom Baker episodes.  I'll have to scan and post my autographed pic from him.  My fav being Key to Time, which was a whole season.  Mary Tamm was a babe!  And the Dr's equal being a Time Lord herself.  DOn't forget K9!  The best Dr. in the franchise!  My daughters dabbled in knitting and I always requested a Baker length scarf, but they never got that far!  The cheezy effects and the over-the-top acting of the Brits, make it endearing!  Kind of like the original Star Trek.  My oldest daughter likes the new Doctor as well.  I have not watched any, but - Karen Gillan looks a lot like the second Romana (who also became Baker's wife, for a short while...), Lolla Ward.  Baker trivia: Tom Baker's voice is the fourth most recognized voice in GB behind the Queen, Thatcher, and Blair.

It's nice to know I am not alone!
Jim

I really did not watch the Dr. because Mary Tamm was a babe.

Honestly.

Ok, maybe she did make an already awesome show even better!


I always prefered Mary Tamm to Lala Ward (who, by the way, has for the last 20+ years, been married to evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins).  That being said, Lala Ward did get better writing, and some better stories.  And better costumes!  The Girl Doctor costume in Destiny of the Dalek's is one of the great costumes of any of the Doctor's original companions (well, except for Peri's bikini, of course, but given that Peri was frequently out acted by her cleavage...)

Tom Baker is, of course, the best Doctor.  That is a matter of faith for any REAL Doctor who fan.  But the current guy, Matt Smith, is my second favorite.  He has been great, and he is blessed to have Steven Moffat as his lead writer/executive producer.  Moffat is great.  Among other things, he wrote both Blink and the Library episodes for David Tennant's Doctor, so he is responsible for both the Vashta Nerada and the Weeping Angels, which have won fan polls as the best Doctor Who monsters ever.


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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 01:15:48 am »
I've been a fan of the Avengers since I saw it on my nephews TV as a kid (in the '60's) Still think Dianna Rigg is da' bomb!. I also liked 'The Prisoner'. Anyone remember Creature Features with Bob Wilkins? I also think that the original Star Trek was still the best (Angelique Pettyjon in a mylar bikini)... Didn't get into Dr. Who until it came across the pond to PBS.

I had a psychology professor once who had more than a passing resemblance to the fourth doctor (tall, skinny, frizzy hair, muffler trenchcoat, no celery stalk though); one of the few classes I sat in the back with the troublemakers... "yer TARDIS is calling... oh look- a Dalek!" We were merciless. Doctor... Who?

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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 06:31:03 am »
"Hey Hadji, sit down"

Most of the old cartoons are great, but I like the ones with the really off the wall humor and gags.

Droopy Dog, Woody Woodpecker
Walter Lance stuff
Warner Bros stuff, foghorn Leghorn, Yosemite Sam, Daffy duck and that whole crew except Roadrunner

My Dad loved Roadrunner, I thought it was boring and completely predictable.

I am a big fan of more recent ones also.
Ren and Stimpy is my fav. (Maybe the best cartoon ever, IMO)
Bender the drunk robot in Futurama
Some of the adult swim stuff




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Re: Silly childhood guilty pleasure?
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 09:00:08 am »
Silly childhood guilty pleasure? Dang, I never stopped watching cartoons...

Picked up the 4th season of the Venture Bros with the last Borders coupon I"ll ever get.  :sad: Adult Swim is for all of us. Metalocalypse, et al.

Huge fan of Chuck Jones, Walter Lantz, John Kricfalusi, etc.

My Dad loved Roadrunner, I thought it was boring and completely predictable.
IMHO, the early Roadrunners were brilliant, and predictability was part of the gag. The funny was in between, breaking through the format (facial expressions, etc). Only about half had Chuck Jones's involvement. Some are pretty bad (Hanna-Barbara repeating backgrounds, repeating the sight gags, etc.)

And just how brilliant was Mel Blanc?

(Oh, and some anime is incredible, too.)

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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 11:56:16 pm »
Tom Baker was favorite Dr Who also.  Cartoon-wise, I liked Huckleberry Hound in the 50s & early 60s.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 07:47:02 am »
In the mid nineties, when Doctor Who was all but dead, I used to help out on the crew for some of the privately funded Doctor Who productions. I suppose they'd call it "fanfic" now. We used to scrounge up gear/people and run things on a really tight budget (including editing in peoples spare bedrooms with equipment lying all over the floor with a rats nest of wiring. We even got Peter Davidson to take part as he loved it all too.

In recent years I have avoided the modern series, but my wife and I did watch their work-over of Christmas Carol which was actually quite good.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 09:59:48 am »
I always got the opinion that the series was always on a tight budget - for example with Pertwee "stuck" on earth years...  No need for special effects there!  So, Nathon-Turner was not available on the cheap in the 90's?!?!  Although not a big fan of Peter Davison as the Dr., I always heard he was a really nice guy - it's good to find out that it is true.  You didn't happen to take a few police boxes and put them in storage, did you?

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2011, 01:10:41 pm »
I always got the opinion that the series was always on a tight budget - for example with Pertwee "stuck" on earth years...  No need for special effects there!  So, Nathon-Turner was not available on the cheap in the 90's?!?!  Although not a big fan of Peter Davison as the Dr., I always heard he was a really nice guy - it's good to find out that it is true.  You didn't happen to take a few police boxes and put them in storage, did you?

Jim

It was always done on a tight budget, at least until they revived it. Peter Davison's Real Life daughter made an appearance in one of the new series shows, they called it "The Doctor's Daughter," David Tennant was the doctor for that series. (the second of the three newest doctors. From what I gather, Davison, along with an ex-companion, Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones, from the revived series) is apparently co-cast members, IIRC, of Law and Order UK. Tennant and Catherine Tate (ex-companion Donna Noble) have went on to star in theatre together (Don't ask me the name of the play.)
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2011, 03:21:24 pm »
In recent years I have avoided the modern series, but my wife and I did watch their work-over of Christmas Carol which was actually quite good.


I avoided it for quite a long time too, but since I started watching it I've gotten ALMOST as obsessive as I was as a child.  And anything Steve Moffat wrote is VERY worth watching.  Some fans of the old show are finding the current season a bit dark, but I'm absolutely loving it.  The only thing I wish is that they hadn't split the series up into two parts.


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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2011, 03:28:18 pm »
Peter Davison's Real Life daughter made an appearance in one of the new series shows, they called it "The Doctor's Daughter," David Tennant was the doctor for that series.

Oh, there is a lot more to that story.  Georgia Moffett, Peter Davison's daughter, got married a few months back to .... David Tennant!  And of course, David Tennant always says that Davison was his favorite Doctor.


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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2011, 05:45:26 pm »
Are you guys talking about a Soap Opera or a Cartoon  :dontknow:

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2011, 09:46:55 pm »
Peter Davison's Real Life daughter made an appearance in one of the new series shows, they called it "The Doctor's Daughter," David Tennant was the doctor for that series.

Oh, there is a lot more to that story.  Georgia Moffett, Peter Davison's daughter, got married a few months back to .... David Tennant!  And of course, David Tennant always says that Davison was his favorite Doctor.


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I remember that Davison was Tennant's Doctor.... It was bold as day in the 5 minute episode in which he and Davison was in together. I can't remember the name of the episode, except it was in between leaving Martha Jones behind and the Titanic crashing into the Tardis. I think it might have been one of those feed the children specials type things. As far as Tennant marrying her (Davison's daughter) that is something new to me.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2011, 06:26:51 am »
Are you guys talking about a Soap Opera or a Cartoon  :dontknow:

In many ways...yes!  Except for the cartoon part...  It is a science fiction show from the BBC that started in 1963.  It is the longest running sci-fi show in history.  Many actors have played the lead role as the Dr. and a "regeneration process" provides continuation between the old and new.  As I mentioned earlier (in my mind), it is a campy, typically over-acted, cheezy effects, Brit sci-fi show - at least the old ones are.  It seems a little strange until you figure out the characters, villains, and history.  There are serious allegiances by fans to certain eras of the show, typically with the actor who portrayed the Dr. at that time. Wiki provides a nice overview.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who

I've watched a few episodes of the newer versions and I just can't get into it.  My daughter loves them, but also likes my Baker era videos as well.  Davison's daughter and Tennant!  That is wild!  Way to suck up, Tennant...  I'll have to check out L&O UK.

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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2011, 10:34:06 pm »
I've watched a few episodes of the newer versions and I just can't get into it.  My daughter loves them, but also likes my Baker era videos as well.  Davison's daughter and Tennant!  That is wild!  Way to suck up, Tennant...  I'll have to check out L&O UK.


Dude, have you seen her?  No sucking up required.  I'm usually not that into blonds, but as long as her personality is at least, you know, tolerable, and the sight of me didn't make her physically sick, I'd propose.  

As far as not getting into the new series, go watch Blink, the Two Library episodes (Silence in the Library and Forests of the Dead), and then all of the fifth and sixth seasons (or at least, what is out of the sixth season).  You'll find yourself needing to go back and rewatch the whole thing.


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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2011, 01:42:39 am »
The old Merry Melodies........ That was pure music appreciation for me........Never tired of those
cartoons and they were always in motion it seems......

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 01:58:55 am »
Gabriel,
Wow, Georgia is a babe!  Thanks for the tips on the episodes, I'll check them out!

Yeah, Merry Melodies were great!

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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 02:14:12 am »

As far as not getting into the new series, go watch Blink, the Two Library episodes (Silence in the Library and Forests of the Dead), and then all of the fifth and sixth seasons (or at least, what is out of the sixth season).  You'll find yourself needing to go back and rewatch the whole thing.

Gabriel

Second part of season 6 is about to begin soon. They've started rolling out the pre-start specials just this past Saturday on BBCA.
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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 02:02:09 pm »

As far as not getting into the new series, go watch Blink, the Two Library episodes (Silence in the Library and Forests of the Dead), and then all of the fifth and sixth seasons (or at least, what is out of the sixth season).  You'll find yourself needing to go back and rewatch the whole thing.

Gabriel

Second part of season 6 is about to begin soon. They've started rolling out the pre-start specials just this past Saturday on BBCA.

Yes, I'm pretty excited about it all.  I don't actually get BBC America, but I can download them from iTunes the day after they are released (well, usually - iTunes has made us wait for a few of them).  I'll not go into my normal theorizing right now, but I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing if I'm right!  At the very least, I am pretty sure there is still a LOT to learn about River Song!


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