Welcome To the Hoffman Amplifiers Forum

September 07, 2025, 03:42:37 pm
guest image
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
-User Name
-Password



Hoffman Amps Forum image Author Topic: TOS REBUILD  (Read 5540 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
TOS REBUILD
« on: September 21, 2011, 02:19:36 am »
Hi guys, Getting things in order for the rebuild.When i built the TOS i got a bit carried away with some add-ons and lost the true effect of the original build. Thankfully Tubenit has come up with some bute ideas and so an upgrade is in order, but there has been so many great changes its hard to know which ones to use. I've started with TOS 8-28-11 and added a reverb and now that the Carolina Hummingbird has arrived on the scene i'm liking the TONE STACK and would like to ask T how they compare and suit each amp as they both have great sound qualities.Thanks

Offline tubenit

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 10274
  • Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2011, 05:09:15 am »
I recommend the 8-28-11 TOS tone stack. 

The Carolina HummingBird is a brighter sounding amp for some reason (thru the same speaker & guitar) so I had to take off more of the higher frequencies. And the CHB tone stack is after the cathode follower instead of between the V1a & V1b.

with respect, Tubenit

Offline stingray_65

  • SMG
  • Level 3
  • *****
  • Posts: 926
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2011, 08:38:30 am »
I have to ask,

Would the mosfet CF and the CHB tone stack be a good candidate for the TOS?
My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention (H. Lamarr)

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2011, 02:28:13 pm »
Thanks Tubenit, This will be the schem i will go with and the tag strips for the construction. Thanks

Offline Willabe

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 10524
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 04:45:11 pm »
Where did you get that tag strip? Man that thing is as long as a river. I don't think I've ever seen one like that before.


         Brad       :icon_biggrin:

Offline tubenit

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 10274
  • Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 05:55:06 pm »
Timbo,

That looks good!  Maybe try a 120p to 220p range on the volume pot bright cap & see what works best for you?

Please keep us posted, I am interested in how this build turns out for you.

With respect, Tubenit

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2011, 01:58:08 am »
Hi guy's,I am wanting to know if any one had any problems with mounting filter caps near circuitry components as i am trying to keep them close to there relative power supply,in other words do filter cap give off any magnetic fields that might upset sensitive components.Thanks

Offline Geezer

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 3680
  • Groov'n Tube'n KOOK (Keeper Of Odd Knowledge)
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2011, 07:51:00 am »
I've never had a problem, and in fact, I believe the closer the filter is to the corresponding filtered section, the better.

$0.02    Geezer
   Cunfuze-us say: "He who say "It can't be done" should stay out of way of him who doing it!"

Offline Rev D

  • Level 2
  • **
  • Posts: 112
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 12:28:48 pm »
 Look at some of Doug's older Plexi designs, there's caps all the way across the board if memory serves? One sec:



 There all sit under the board on his early 30 watt heads, must not be an issue?

Regards,

Don

Offline Tone Junkie

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 861
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2011, 01:56:16 pm »
Timbo I like putting mine like this keeps them real close to what Im filtering.
Plus i like how compact and cheap good quality radial caps are.
Bill

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2011, 02:14:08 pm »
Thanks guys,just another piece of info to add to the list.I'm hoping that i can workout a standard layout that i can apply to other builds and at the same time create a layout that is well grounded and will reduce noise in ANY type of amp.I've tried using the etched boards with turrets but with having some of the connections under the board it makes it difficult to make changes, so this time the tag strips are the go. Any advice,Thanks

Offline Willabe

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 10524
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2011, 03:41:46 pm »
Tone Junkie, are the lectro caps in your pic soldered to eyelets under the caps or did you run the leads through hole's in the board and then back (under the board) to the turrets?

Looks real nice.


          Thanks ,    Brad       :icon_biggrin:
         

Offline stingray_65

  • SMG
  • Level 3
  • *****
  • Posts: 926
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2011, 10:28:51 pm »
Hi guy's,I am wanting to know if any one had any problems with mounting filter caps near circuitry components as i am trying to keep them close to there relative power supply,in other words do filter cap give off any magnetic fields that might upset sensitive components.Thanks

While E caps do have a wound foil inside them, they do not complete a circuit and are separated by a dielectric and therefore do not act like an inductor.

ANY time an electric current is acted upon there results a magnetic field, usually these fields are so tiny they can be ignored in all but the most crowded and sensitive circuits.



My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention (H. Lamarr)

Offline Tone Junkie

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 861
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 02:26:26 am »
I save alot of my snipped off resister and cap leads then will bend one tight around the cap lead and then go to the turrets.
 I usually like the upper quality nichicon caps they seem to have short leads that just poke through the board a little ways, but leaves enough to solder solidly to.

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2011, 06:29:22 pm »
Hi Guys,Had some time to do some doodling and also had a good read of Merlins Grounding, a lot more made sense this time round, so i tried to do my layout to match as much as his article says. The Layout looks a bit cluttered but i think i've got it pretty well worked out.I did not have any BUZZ problems with the original build but i was hoping that this kind of layout will help with the other problem amps. Thanks
« Last Edit: October 07, 2011, 06:40:33 pm by TIMBO »

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2011, 01:21:36 am »
Hi guys, Things are going GREAT. The tag strips are working well and looks like it will all come together nicely. So some pics are in order.

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 01:29:41 am »
MORE PICS

Offline birt

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 706
  • I love tube amps
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2011, 03:39:20 am »
looks very good. i like those tagstrips too but i cut off some of the feet so i have less ground points and i can use those tags for other connections.

Offline TIMBO

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2878
  • Blues Forever
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2011, 04:13:13 am »
Hi birt, I did cut off some of the feet and tried to use only the ones that did not have a component soldered to it but in the end most of the tags were used so i used a plastic bolt and washer to insulate the foot from the chassis. The three filter caps and there assoc. components are connected to the caps ground and i was going to use the tag foot to ground that cap to the chassis but at the moment i have a wire that i'll will solder to the ground buss as per merlins grounding. Thanks

Offline tubenit

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 10274
  • Life is a daring adventure or nothing at all!
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2011, 04:45:20 am »
Thanks for sharing the pics!  I am very interested how this turns out for you.

With respect, Tubenit

Offline Tone Junkie

  • Level 3
  • ***
  • Posts: 861
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: TOS REBUILD
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2011, 02:37:05 am »
Looks cool I like the way the tags strips look when its all soldered up seems to save space over the turret boards I usually use.
Bill

 


Choose a link from the
Hoffman Amplifiers parts catalog
Mobile Device
Catalog Link
Yard Sale
Discontinued
Misc. Hardware
What's New Board Building
 Parts
Amp trim
Handles
Lamps
Diodes
Hoffman Turret
 Boards
Channel
Switching
Resistors Fender Eyelet
 Boards
Screws/Nuts
Washers
Jacks/Plugs
Connectors
Misc Eyelet
Boards
Tools
Capacitors Custom Boards
Tubes
Valves
Pots
Knobs
Fuses/Cords Chassis
Tube
Sockets
Switches Wire
Cable


Handy Links
Tube Amp Library
Tube Amp
Schematics library
Design a custom Eyelet or
Turret Board
DIY Layout Creator
File analyzer program
DIY Layout Creator
File library
Transformer Wiring
Diagrams
Hoffmanamps
Facebook page
Hoffman Amplifiers
Discount Program


password