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using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« on: November 29, 2011, 08:17:08 am »
i was wondering if it would be possible to use a magic eye tube (like an EM84 for example) as triode gain stage in a guitar amplifier. It is a double triode after all. and would it light up with the amplitude of the signal?
i can't find the characteristics of the triode, probably because nobody really needs them :p

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 08:40:31 am »
http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/cgi-bin/vs4.pl

looks like you might have to plot your own curves.

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 11:55:44 pm »
You'll want to solicit TubeGeek's help.

He built a project amp that uses a magic eye tube, with input from this forum several years ago.

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 11:36:38 pm »
Yeah, but please don't. Magic-eyes wear out. They aren't making new ones. The radio restorers need them for future restorations.

No, it won't "wiggle" unless badly biased for audio amplification.

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 03:27:11 am »
Look to this



(klick on it)

Kagliostro

p.s.: also if I agree with PRR, the use of one tube in an amp, as level indicator, I think is admissible  :icon_biggrin:
« Last Edit: December 02, 2011, 03:29:46 am by kagliostro »
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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 03:50:39 am »
Yeah, but please don't. Magic-eyes wear out. They aren't making new ones. The radio restorers need them for future restorations.

No, it won't "wiggle" unless badly biased for audio amplification.

good point.

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2012, 01:19:55 pm »
An unusual use of a V.F.D. (Vacuum Fluorescent Display)

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VFD's have been used in place of valves/vacuum tubes in order to simulate low-mu triodes

I didn't imagine that this can be done

http://www.eham.net/articles/20809

this radio uses V.F.D. instead of normal triodes also for AF section output





K
« Last Edit: August 27, 2012, 03:14:33 am by kagliostro »
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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2012, 02:38:44 pm »
From the website Kagliostro linked:   :icon_biggrin:



Monster single ended amplifier with room to try 50 different preamp types?

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2012, 02:42:26 pm »
From the website Kagliostro linked:   :icon_biggrin:



Monster single ended amplifier with room to try 50 different preamp types?

Or Party Hat
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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2012, 03:12:43 pm »
Or Party Hat

I'm gonna ask Santa to bring me one for Christmas.


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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2012, 03:32:40 pm »
50 miniature tubes bowing to the King tube?

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2012, 04:06:34 pm »
Those little tubes are all JAN Western Electrics, too. They'd probably be worth a fortune today...even if they were monodes.

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 01:28:14 pm »
What's a monode? A light bulb?

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 03:05:06 pm »
I guess it'd have to be, LOL. I just made it up.

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2012, 11:26:40 pm »
I could mount that array in my HVAC ductwork - it looks like about 50,000 BTU!

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Re: using a magic eye as an audio amplifier
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2012, 05:25:45 am »
Whatever it is, its from the days when they based the design of widgets around the shape of tubes. All that glass does look pretty.
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