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One of my all-time favorite performances
« on: December 17, 2013, 09:35:00 am »
When I was coming up as a young guitar player there was a solid list, carved in stone, of the great rock guitarists,,,and we all knew what we had to do...
Figure out a way to play like your favorites, and try to keep some of your own personality mixed in......
I think this is a great example of a guy who did just that,,,and then some
I never considered myself a fan of Steve Vai's style,,,,,too "over the top" for my taste,,,BUT, I always appreciated his command over the instrument and realized that some of my dis-taste revolved around the fact that I could never do what he does  :sad:  :l2:

This is in my Top 10 singular performances----start to finish
If you've never seen this, I would be doing a dis-service to not post it
If you can give it all 5 minutes, I promise you wont be bored,,,and you'll see a side of his playing that doesn't get a lot of attention..  :icon_biggrin:
There's a moment that starts @ 3:18 that makes me question whether he's actually human  :huh:

Please excuse the awkward "dancing" and one-handed hair push-backs........he is a showman

Steve Vai - "Tender Surrender"

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 04:52:07 am »
I love Steve
And he is a really nice guy to boot

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 09:11:03 am »
I love Steve
Had you ever seen this song/performance before?

I've seen different renditions of it but none that impacted me like this one.....something about his tone, feel....just  the whole package

I've been watching it for 10 years and I'm still amazed.....I originally copied it to a ZIP drive for "permanent" storage  :l2:


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2013, 11:18:52 am »
Had you ever seen this song/performance before?

I have a few of Steve's live performance DVD's
Not sure if that is on one of them or not
It's been a few years since I watched them

There's one show I really like where he divides the show into two parts
The first parts is fairly tame tunes like that one

Then the band takes a break and comes back out with laser and LED apparel mounted to their bodies
Steve has laser gloves and all kinds of gear on

He announces that this will be the metal portion of the show and then the band proceeds to rip it up big time

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 01:42:00 pm »
Well, it's official, I'm a dinosaur.     :laugh:

After about 1:30 I don't get it any more.     :dontknow:

At 3:50 is he wearing/does he have a nipple piercing? Look when his jacket opens up.



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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 10:15:06 pm »
Well, it's official, I'm a dinosaur.     :laugh:
NOW??,,,,it's official???
I thought we already had this sorted out........   :wink:

After about 1:30 I don't get it any more.     :dontknow:
That's just because the hand is faster than the eye......it's magic........you might have to watch it about 50 more times to "get it" :icon_biggrin:


At 3:50 is he wearing/does he have a nipple piercing? Look when his jacket opens up.
I HAVE watched this over 50 times,,,and never once did I notice anything about a nipple.......thanks for that!?!?  :angry:

Not everything is for everyone, we agree on that......BUT, no one can deny the astonishing talent that this guy possesses... :worthy1:
You don't have to buy the CD,,,,,,but you do have to be amazed by it  :cussing:

Keep in mind that this was 1995-ish...........nipple piercings were "in" and crazy talented monster shredding wasn't all over YouTube
Windows 95 was "all the rage"   :undecided:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 12:38:04 am »
And the moral of the story is.....    :undecided:

That's just because the hand is faster than the eye......it's magic
Ahh, Yes, but MUSIC is in the EARS NOT the EYES my friend.

I HAVE watched this over 50 times,,,and never once did I notice anything about a nipple.......thanks for that!?!?  :angry:
Well, maybe that should be your 1st clue that your eyes aren't telling you the whole story like you think?  :think1: Hey wanna play a little 3 card Monty?
And don't be mad at me, I saw it the 1st time and thought what da.....  :l2:  Hey, I haven't had myself pierced.  Where's the heck is Jimbob when you need him?  :laugh:

Not everything is for everyone, we agree on that......BUT, no one can deny the astonishing talent that this guy possesses... :worthy1: You don't have to buy the CD,,,,,,but you do have to be amazed by it  :cussing: ...and crazy talented monster shredding...

Sorry, but no I do not agree at all and no I don't have to be amazed and I'm not. If you are OK.

Now Larry Carlton, that's a horse of another color. He plays what he needs to when he needs to "TO SERVE the SONG." The song doesn't serve him or really any player, nor should it, 2 sides of the same coin now isn't it, huh?

There's a difference between physical ability of moves and intellectual understanding of music theory and emotional content of/in delivery that's as big as the Great Grand Cannon divide when it comes to being able to play any instrument.

Think about it, why is the violin traditionally accepted as the lead 1st chair in a symphonic orchestra? Why? Because of it's ability to express more emotion on a wider level than any other instrument in the orchestra.

Now an electric guitar has some of those qualities/abilities and that's why guys were going into distortion along with vibing/shaking single note lines/solos the make it "sing" in a way that resembles the human voice, trying to sound like a violin. Slide guitar has possibly even a little more chance as it is fretless, like a violin but that's where the string bending comes in with the old blues men the  rock guys built on and added sustain/distortion.          

Instead of being "amazed by it".... Let me ask you this? When was the last time music moved you that it made you cry or laugh or even angered?

Keep in mind that this was 1995-ish...........nipple piercings were "in"

You got 1 of those?  :undecided:  (Never mind, I don't wanna know.) I guess that's why I'm a dinosaur, not hip anymore.    :l2:  Hey, Jimbob where are you?    :l2:

There's a moment that starts @ 3:18 that makes me question whether he's actually human  :huh:
No, he's human just like all of us, but that's good. It's more than enough to be alive and human. To love and be loved. "A toast! To my big brother, the richest man in town!" From "Its a Wonderful Life."  :icon_biggrin:

"So What is Hip?"

BTW, The horn section from this band is the horn section that Carlos Santana used on his 2nd and 3rd albums, IMO his best work! Those 2 albums would not have been ANYWHERE the same with out them but at the same time Carlos knew how to add them into the music as a band leader/arranger. Listen for the POWER of the horns, everything is based on them. The guitar player in not a great lead player but he is a great rhythm player that knows HOW to back up the horn section, that's his job and that's why they hired him. Listen for the rhythm inter play between him and the Hammond player too. AND the POWER and placement timing wise of the baritone sax! And the Hammond player is as good as it gets too.  

1st, for your eyes, since it seems that when it comes to music (which I've heard you play in postings very well) you still believe them more than your ears feeding the sound to your heart ;

http://youtu.be/IamZGzmqDRY
Studio;
http://youtu.be/oAatPPEaZDA
Soul Train;
http://youtu.be/sJGASb2tnwQ
Another Tower of Power hit;
http://youtu.be/APlwRR9IO_E
" Louisiana Lou and Three card Monty John"
http://youtu.be/fU-f4IsIlwc

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                      hey I'm just playin and singing my song,     :m2
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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 05:50:53 am »
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So Very Hard to Go

Great tune!!!!!!!!

I still listen to quite a bit of soul music.  Loved the vocals back then. Hard to find good soulful singers like Gladys Knight or Percy Sledge nowadays, IMO.

With respect, Jeff

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 09:09:43 am »
And the moral of the story is.....    :undecided:
.............unfair, railroading, I say  :bs:

There IS a song there.....there IS mood and AND emotion......and it shouldn't be dispelled just because it is being played on one instrument,,,by a virtuoso,,,,,who chooses to use a ton of distortion and some nice delay, and might have a nipple pierced ........ :icon_biggrin:
We shouldn't penalize his musical efforts because "we" can't relate to them......

I'm not a huge fan of "monster shredding" (this is about as far in that direction as I've ever wandered),,,,but there IS something about this specific performance, of this specific instrumental,,,that does speak to me.....And I do hear a vocal quality in his tone and phrasing...
The acrobatics, nipple piercings, studded sleeves.......ALL SHOW......don't let it distract you from the POWER of his performance...
I posted it to make sure that it wasn't missed by the masses.....

Now,,,,,,I get what you're saying,,,,BUT,,,,I think you might be too quick to pass it off as non-musical because it doesn't fit into your framework of MUSIC
Is it "as good" as another type of music..... :dontknow:.....not for me to judge

But you sir, have posted some of the best music ever made,,,throughout this board,,,,,this thread,,,,this forum   :worthy1:
Seriously, great work, on keeping the great stuff alive!

I can only defend my post as an attempt to share a piece of my musical puzzle with anyone who cares enough to visit this thread.....thanks to guys like you, that puzzle is growing a little bit every day  :thumbsup:

Let me ask you this? When was the last time music moved you that it made you cry or laugh or even angered?
I remember perfectly.....
About a month ago, I spoke to an old friend who has been battling lyme disease on and off for years......she is a tiny being, who could get blown away in a wind storm.....she has ties in Ireland, and it holds a large part of her heart.....
I decided to share a song with her, a) beacause I knew she never heard it, b) because it reminded me of her struggle, c) I knew it would make her feel something:
Solas- Girl in the War.....the simple melody gets me every time....
I can't post the video on this thread....it doesn't belong here....it exists on a completely opposite plane than the original video posted.......you know where to find it  :icon_biggrin:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 10:07:29 am »
Hey, Jimbob where are you?
(artistic use of the color pink)

Oh yeah,,,
and please don't bring Jim into this.....
he probably actually believes that Blackmore is a better guitar player than Vai   :l2:  :l3:

I don't want to have to hurt his feelings again,,,,,we just barely got over the last incident  :undecided:


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 04:10:40 pm »
Great tune!!!!!!!!
I still listen to quite a bit of soul music.  Loved the vocals back then. Hard to find good soulful singers like Gladys Knight or Percy Sledge nowadays, IMO.

You must be a dinosaur like me?  :laugh:

Yeah, he's good, huh? I remember hearing that song on the radio as a kid.


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 04:16:51 pm »
Dave, I'm very sorry to hear about your friend.

I listened to that song and some other things by that band, very deep and rich music, IMO.

I can see the link in the lyrics. Did it comfort her?


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 04:43:36 pm »
Dave, I'm very sorry to hear about your friend.

I listened to that song and some other things by that band, very deep and rich music, IMO.

I can see the link in the lyrics. Did it comfort her?
Thank you.....

Yeah I kinda had that one in the holster and it hit her pretty good....I'm trying to get her to go to their next show with the wife and I (and others)

Really good live band that sucks you in.......about as far from my day to day operations as I get  :icon_biggrin:

I wanted you to see that I understand your point completely......evoking emotion with a good song....nothing quite like it
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I never would have sent her the Steve Vai song......way off the mark  :wink:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2014, 06:08:41 pm »
.............unfair, railroading, I say  :bs:
Now wait a minute, It's not railroading and it's not BS.     :laugh:

All I said was that;
Well, it's official, I'm a dinosaur.     :laugh:   After about 1:30 I don't get it any more.     :dontknow:
To which you replied partially;

That's just because the hand is faster than the eye......it's magic.... Not everything is for everyone, we agree on that......BUT, no one can deny the astonishing talent that this guy possesses... :worthy1:   You don't have to buy the CD,,,,,,but you do have to be amazed by it  :cussing:
(Now that's railroading. :l2:)

And I said;

Ahh, Yes, but MUSIC is in the EARS NOT the EYES my friend.
And;

Sorry, but no I do not agree at all and no I don't have to be amazed and I'm not. If you are OK.
Then I went on to try to explain my point.

Look this is not like a tube load line or how a circuit is loaded by some impedance that can be figured out with math to reach an absolute and confirmed conclusion.    :laugh:

I think you might be too quick to pass it off as non-musical because it doesn't fit into your framework of MUSIC.

Well, yes and no? Everyone has some type of framework for everything.

There IS a song there.....there IS mood and AND emotion......and it shouldn't be dispelled just because it is being played on one instrument,,,

Yes, there is a song and mood and emotion and I'm not "dispelling" (your word) it for being played by 1 instruments. And I said, I look at it this way;

Now Larry Carlton, that's a horse of another color. He plays what he needs to when he needs to "TO SERVE the SONG." The song doesn't serve him or really any player, nor should it, 2 sides of the same coin now isn't it, huh?

There's a difference between physical ability of moves and intellectual understanding of music theory and emotional content of/in delivery that's as big as the Great Grand Cannon divide when it comes to being able to play any instrument.
So we disagree, but I'm not railroading you with BS.

by a virtuoso,,,,,
Ahh,   :think1:    mmmmmmm........   no.

Now Itzhak Perlman the great classical violinist is a virtuoso, YoYo Ma the great classical cellist is a virtuoso.

Check this out, it's Klezmer music. It's an old world folk music style of the Israelis/Jewish people. It's deep and rich in emotion and takes a lot of skill because of it's flowing timing, at times it's speed and melodies. Now he will tell you he doesn't really know how to play this music but heard it as a child. He's playing totally off the top of his head, improvising all of it. He doesn't know these songs, has not learned them or rehearsed them yet what comes out from just ideas in his head, now that/he is AMAZING!

http://youtu.be/DkmFgQ9fM94

And I do hear a vocal quality in his tone and phrasing...
Nobody sings that fast, that long. That's 1 of my main point's, when you do that you bury the melody which is the song. Yes there's Bebop Jazz which is played at break neck pace near the speed of light but somehow those guy, the great 1's anyway, would still keep some sense of melodic lines that where clear to the ear. Those guys were AMAZING, how can anyone process that much music in their head and still make it come out through their fingers and it's understandable to the human ear.


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2014, 06:17:27 pm »
Last couple of thought's    :laugh:   ;

We shouldn't penalize his musical efforts because "we" can't relate to them......don't let it distract you from the POWER of his performance...
I posted it to make sure that it wasn't missed by the masses.....Is it "as good" as another type of music..... :dontknow:.....not for me to judge

But you are judging him as a virtuoso, amazing and someone who shouldn't be missed by the masses.

Like it or not we all judge musicians. We either like their music or we don't. If we like it we buy it, listen to it, maybe go see them play and say to our friends "hey you have got to hear this". It's just the way it is.

The acrobatics, nipple piercings, studded sleeves.......ALL SHOW......don't let it distract you from the POWER of his performance...


That's like saying, "see that women who's wearing that very tight, very low cut dress with a push up bra and has a huge boob job, well don't let that distract you from seeing her inner beauty."    :w2:   Say what??????      :l3:


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2014, 06:39:01 pm »
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Nope....nuh -uh.....we just disagree....and that's Ok..... :icon_biggrin:
BUT, I do need you to go back to my first post and read it, so that you understand my position a little better.... :angel

I worded this as being In my Top 10  "PERFORMANCES"
Not my favorite song, performer, emotional melody, nipple slip,,, just performance....front to back,,,just 1 perfect performance.
I've watched him do this song in other videos and couldn't even stand to watch  :huh:.....where's the tone?, the feeling?, the flow?....ehhh

This night, this tone, that outfit, without a net, no backup orchestra, not high on anything,,,,,,  :icon_biggrin:..........NAILED IT!
I could only hope to be 1/millionth as good as this for 1 second of my guitar life

If this guy isn't to be considered an electric guitar virtuoso, than I just don't know who is.  :dontknow:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/virtuoso

Respectfully, and always patially jokingly, your friend,
Dave

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2014, 07:15:17 pm »
If this guy isn't to be considered an electric guitar virtuoso, than I just don't know who is.  :dontknow:

Well, how about Les Paul, Jeff Beck and Larry Carlton. Virtuoso is a term should not be given too easily.


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2014, 01:33:48 am »
Dave, Dave, Dave.....  First, we have not "barely got over" anything.  Your constant demeaning of the all encompassing god of guitar (everyone else knows he is Mr. Blackmore, just to remind you again), your blaming of everyone for not "understanding" your point of view, your EXTREME sensitivity of any honest critical review of one of your heroes (for example: "that pinch harmonic overandoverandoverandover, buzzsawdistortion mush mess 5150 player, wannabe chickenpicker Steve Morse"), and your overall sour grapes on any disagreement to your point of view - ALL point to a severe inferiority complex.  Oh and there is that part about not wanting to take any chances (read: posting any recordings.....).  Anyway, I see this as a cry for help.  You can throw barbs my way all day and night.  But I do understand it is your way to make you feel better about your substandard interests and so called "virtuoso" heroes.  Case in point, the following:

Steve Vai - For The Love Of Shred

Now, I know that some day you will see the light, start playing nice, AND as your tastes mature - you will gain many friends and probably become incredibly wealthy.  Until then, I will excuse your whining as the typical rants of youthful unknowing bliss.  Please know that a dinosaurs like myself does not take your criticism seriously.  I mean come on, do you know how ridiculous you look blaming me for getting it right the first time?!?!

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2014, 06:09:17 am »
I'm with you Jim. Blackmore has him beat...   :l2:
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2014, 08:35:05 am »
Well, well, well.....it was all too predictable, until sluckey joined in.....
He has reminded me how ridiculous this conversation is...........................
I have to remember that I'm arguing with one guy who would rather be playing accordion  :help:, and another who has to wait 'til his wife leaves the house, just to turn his amp on,,,,,(in fear that the filament draw alone in that relic could possibly trip the main house breaker)_  :laugh:

Just to clear up our terminology a little......you 2 were dinosaurs when this came out in '95,,,,,,you've decomposed to the point that we must now change the term to FOSSIL.....
Dinosaurs have a mind that can rationalize, based on the facts in front of them......
Fossils however, are just the remains of what once was,,,,,a glaring reminder of what can happen to any of us if we close our minds to the ever changing world around us.........so sad :sad2:

Well, how about Les Paul, Jeff Beck and Larry Carlton. Virtuoso is a term should not be given too easily.
They all qualify......here's the thing.....
He can play everything that they have, but not vice-versa  :wink:
So do we then have to come up with a new term for a supreme virtuoso of virtuosos? .....a supertuoso?

and your overall sour grapes on any disagreement to your point of view - ALL point to a severe inferiority complex
Well yes,,,,this guy put me out of business..................once I saw this I had to take a long look in the mirror (I think that was the exact moment when I noticed my first grey hair)

AND as your tastes mature - you will gain many friends and probably become incredibly wealthy
So, I'M GOING TO WIN THE LOTTERY!!!!   :happy1:

Alright, so now that everyone understands where we stand, and that I'm right, and that I'm going to be able to retire early,,,,,I can get on with my own daily dinosaur droppings.....
I too will be a fossil someday............ the unfortunate circle of life.

Steve Vai - For The Love Of Shred
*That video just goes to show you the lengths that people will go to try to hide from the truth.......and kinda reminds me of what it would sound like if I tried to record a tribute to the master  :sad:....(that's why I stay away from the "sound clips" board  :icon_biggrin:)

(*hysterical as it is)

With all due love and respect,
SILVERGUN

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2014, 12:46:37 pm »
Well, how about Les Paul, Jeff Beck and Larry Carlton. Virtuoso is a term should not be given too easily.
They all qualify......here's the thing.....
He can play everything that they have, but not vice-versa  :wink:

Wow, case in point.  I would expect this completely misguided comment from a "have you got the tabs for that?" kind of guy.  Covering the same VERY well trod ground pioneered by Blackmore/Van Halen/Malmsteen/Satriani (his teacher BTW...) by coping runs does not put you in the same league.  Paul, Beck, Carlton, and ESPECIALLY Blackmore are virtuosos.  They are identified by their own completely ORIGINAL style playing ORIGINAL music.  No tabs there.  No tired retreads.

and your overall sour grapes on any disagreement to your point of view - ALL point to a severe inferiority complex
Well yes,,,,this guy put me out of business..................once I saw this I had to take a long look in the mirror (I think that was the exact moment when I noticed my first grey hair)

I think I have identified part of your problem.  QUIT LOOKING IN THE MIRROR!  Nobody cares how coifed your Flock of Seagulls hairstyle looks.  Or if you can flip your bangs like Vai when you play.  OR if you have your shirt unbuttoned far enough to show your piercings (ewww....).  It's about originality, heart, and soul.  Look INSIDE!  Cant see that in a mirror or through sparkle shirts.  Or significant amounts of hair gel.....

I am enjoying these conversations/sessions!  I think we are making significant progress in a very short period of time.  I hope you are finally finding your way in your oh so warped adolescent world.  You have to crawl before we can run - hang in there!

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2014, 08:39:10 pm »
I have to remember that I'm arguing with one guy who would rather be playing accordion  :help:, and another who has to wait 'til his wife leaves the house, just to turn his amp on,,,,,(in fear that the filament draw alone in that relic could possibly trip the main house breaker)_  :laugh:

Ok, I can not stop laughing about this!  As much as I would not like to admit defeat - you killed me with this one!

Jim :l2: :l2: :l2: :worthy1:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2014, 09:19:15 pm »
I have to remember that I'm arguing with one guy who would rather be playing accordion  :help:, and another who has to wait 'til his wife leaves the house, just to turn his amp on,,,,,(in fear that the filament draw alone in that relic could possibly trip the main house breaker)_  :laugh:  
Ok, I can not stop laughing about this!  As much as I would not like to admit defeat - you killed me with this one!
Well, we're even then...:
Nobody cares how coifed your Flock of Seagulls hairstyle looks
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you almost had me believing that I might NEED therapy

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2014, 06:24:39 pm »
I missed all of the above until now
Is anyone out there doubting how awesome Steve Vai is?

I get it, Ritchie is great, Hendrix was great, Jeff Beck is great and is my fav player

But guys like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani are also really great even you don't get into their brand of music

Steve is a cool guy and very humble
He does know how to entertain and camp it up at the same time

There's only a few of the shredder guys that have a clue and Steve is one of them

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2014, 07:44:09 pm »
I missed all of the above until now
Doug, you must be working to hard, your missing all the fun!     :laugh:

Steve is a cool guy and very humble
Maybe so.

Hey did you happen to listen to band on this post?

http://www.el34world.com/Forum/index.php?topic=16549.0
            

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2014, 08:06:46 pm »
I missed all of the above until now
Is anyone out there doubting how awesome Steve Vai is?
Finally,,, some backup.......
Do you believe these clowns?

I was gonna ask you to add a new emoticon of two guys talking crap to one guy who then turns away and puts a bullet in his head  :icon_biggrin:

I'm pretty sure that I set them straight....they tried to distract me with some introspective therapy and an accordion player thread, but I held my end up.....

Still can't believe that I had to explain that......the video speaks for itself


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2014, 08:21:03 pm »
I'm pretty sure that I set them straight....they tried to distract me with some introspective therapy and an accordion player thread, but I held my end up.....

Yeah you sure did alright.     :laugh: 

:rolleyes:

Nope....nuh -uh.....we just disagree....and that's Ok..... :icon_biggrin:

Still can't believe that I had to explain that......the video speaks for itself

Yep it does.      :think1:

The acrobatics, nipple piercings, studded sleeves.......ALL SHOW......don't let it distract you from the POWER of his performance...


That's like saying, "see that women who's wearing that very tight, very low cut dress with a push up bra and has a huge boob job, well don't let that distract you from seeing her inner beauty."    :w2:   Say what??????      :l3:
     

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2014, 09:10:27 pm »
Doug - shhhhhhh!  Don't spoil the fun!  He's on the edge, ready to jump!

Jim :laughing4:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2014, 09:38:55 am »
Doug - shhhhhhh!  Don't spoil the fun!  He's on the edge, ready to jump!
Too late....
I just ordered a gallon of silver body paint a Bad Horsie wah, and I'm goin' for it.... :guitar1


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2014, 10:23:10 am »
You guys are debating a video from 95.  Do you know that is 19 years years ago?  Man, how time flies when we refuse to let go of things from our past.  I am not sold on the notion that all guitar players must always have "feeling" in everything they play.  A great number of well paid guitar players are sight read players.  For movie score and commercial a lot of times the guitar player has no idea what the "feeling" of the song is supposed to be.  Also, a song can be really great to many but let me listen to it and I can certainly find something wrong with it.

Will these tunes make it alone?  Sometimes they make huge hit songs.  I try to remember what the first bass player said to me when I joined my first band.  He said I know you can play it faster and cleaner than me and I don't really give a S*** because you are not as important to the band as you think.

I like some of Vai's work, but remember he was Eddie VH replacement backing David Lee Roth's solo album.  If you feel he did a better job than Eddie did with David, then the term Virtuoso should be applied.  Rock at its finest with arguing and back stabbing.  Along came Sammy who just wants to rock.  So is it the guitar player, the singer or the song?

Pissed me off, but I came to understand and agree.

Now if none of you want to be a dinosaur, post something you like which is current. :help: :w2:  I am trapped in a time capsule.  I really should not be talking as I rarely listen to anything made after the 70's. :l2:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2014, 12:02:16 pm »
Now if none of you want to be a dinosaur, post something you like which is current. :help: :w2: 

But that's where it started.

I said;

Well, it's official, I'm a dinosaur.     :laugh:

After about 1:30 I don't get it any more.     :dontknow:

At 3:50 is he wearing/does he have a nipple piercing? Look when his jacket opens up.



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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2014, 04:37:20 pm »
Ed - SHHHHH!!!!!  Don't ruin the fun!  It's not about Vai, its about giving SG some trouble!

Ed - Interesting comment from your first band "mate".  I joined a keyboard oriented group that was named after the keyboard player.  He kept telling me to turn down and not be so flashy because the band was about HIM!  I lasted exactly one month and I walked.  He yelled and screamed and threatened to kick my ass when I left (I was about 10" taller and was packing about 50 more lbs....yeah...).  I was like, hey, I get it, it's your band, but I cant work like this.  Lets part as friends.  Nope.  Why? Because I made him look good.  I also did all the backup singing.  He also made me look good because he was an awesome player.  I could have hung in there had we been on equal ground.  I've met and avoided many self-important people in my life....

Eddie VH said both Dave and Sammy suffered from acute LSD (lead singer disease).  I think in this case we may have LGD...

SG - I see by your last emoticon that you DO have a Flock of Seagulls hair-do!  I KNEW it!  Hey, paint for a floor pedal is not so bad.  I think you MAY be coming around!

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2014, 06:28:03 pm »
Sorry Jim, I missed the real reason.  I wouldn't think too much of the comment the bandmate made to me.  Like you, I left soon and got a house gig.  It was something to think about. 

Brad, I am digging My Morning Jacket.

I'm Amazed - My Morning Jacket (Music Video)

Current group.  You probably heard them before.

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2014, 07:43:30 pm »
Scew you guys...I'm BUSY working on building my "Vai tribute band" amp....it'll play for me
,,,that's the ticket

I knew Jim was just here to throw firecrackers down my shorts,,,,,just for that I'm not gonna do any Purple covers in my upcoming sound clips

I like some of Vai's work, but remember he was Eddie VH replacement backing David Lee Roth's solo album.  If you feel he did a better job than Eddie did with David, then the term Virtuoso should be applied.
Well....how 'bout this....
THEY ARE BOTH VIRTUOSOS!
How you like that Bradley?.....I just said it, and I aint takin' it back   :hello:

Just for the record,,,,here's my favorite MyMorningJacket tune.......I'm sure you'll all love this one:
(Ed,,,I cant call you a fossil, because at least you named a band form this century)
My Morning Jacket - Highly Suspicious

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2014, 10:57:32 pm »
Scew you guys...I'm BUSY working on building my "Vai tribute band" amp....it'll play for me
,,,that's the ticket

Your not going to make it a "true" tribute amp, are you?  Will it have pierced knobs? :brushteeth:

I knew Jim was just here to throw firecrackers down my shorts,,,,,just for that I'm not gonna do any Purple covers in my upcoming sound clips

I don't know....  If you really want to hurt me, you WILL do some Purple! :sad2:  HOWEVER, I am warning you right now...  If you do, I WILL retaliate with some Morse "tribute" action! :angry:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2014, 09:37:08 am »
Just for the record,,,,here's my favorite MyMorningJacket tune

Yeah, well that's a.... hmmm...... well..... ummm...... kinda sounds like Prince? aaaaa.... well yeah I guess.....  Highly Suspicious, well alrighty then.

How you like that Bradley?.....I just said it, and I aint takin' it back   :hello:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2014, 10:05:43 am »
I don't know....  If you really want to hurt me, you WILL do some Purple! :sad2: 
That's it!!!...I'm working on Smoke on the Water right now.......I just can't get that first riff down.....  :lipsrsealed:....once I get past that, it's gonna be all downhill from there

HOWEVER, I am warning you right now...  If you do, I WILL retaliate with some Morse "tribute" action! :angry:
OK, just promise me you wont be doing Morse doing Blackmore.....it hurts too much
I found a couple clips that would have Ritchie rolling over in his hermetically sealed sleep chamber  :huh:
SO much so, that I might have to change my ruling on the Morse thing....ouch.....damnit, I hate when that happens (how did that happen?)

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2014, 10:51:10 am »
ummm...... kinda sounds like Prince?
Kinda like a chubby, pastey white guys impression of Prince......maybe how I would sound doing a Prince tribute......hmmmmmmm

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2014, 04:33:25 pm »
I don't know....  If you really want to hurt me, you WILL do some Purple! :sad2: 
That's it!!!...I'm working on Smoke on the Water right now.......I just can't get that first riff down.....  :lipsrsealed:....once I get past that, it's gonna be all downhill from there

HOWEVER, I am warning you right now...  If you do, I WILL retaliate with some Morse "tribute" action! :angry:
OK, just promise me you wont be doing Morse doing Blackmore.....it hurts too much
I found a couple clips that would have Ritchie rolling over in his hermetically sealed sleep chamber  :huh:
SO much so, that I might have to change my ruling on the Morse thing....ouch.....damnit, I hate when that happens (how did that happen?)

Learn the solo to Smoke note for note.  Sure, it may sound simple, but playing it correct is more difficult than you think.  The last 2 notes are killer.  Years ago I did.  Probably could pick it right back up too.

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2014, 06:04:40 pm »
Learn the solo to Smoke note for note.  Sure, it may sound simple, but playing it correct is more difficult than you think.  The last 2 notes are killer. 
Cool challenge....I left work early to get around a fresh foot of snow and wound up putting a good half hour on this solo that I've overlooked for the last 30 years...(but for some reason I was able to hum every note)
I'm not sure why I never connected more with this guy.....his domination of the natural minor scale reminds me a lot of what I was always going after......I was so blinded by Page / Gilmour that I let this stuff slip by......silly me

don't say a word and ruin the moment Jim,,,I know what you're thinking

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2014, 08:25:23 am »
There is a crazy shift in chords during the solo and Blackmore lands with a "g" note at the 12th which makes you not notice any dissonance.  It has to be perfect timing.  To late you miss the resolve and too early it is out of key.  Very similar to Neal's solo in lights.  After this, we will look at Lazy.  Blackmore had a great handle on the harmonic minor and I have always thought he got a lot of inspiration from baroque.  His work on Made in Japan is my favorite.

Purple for some reason is HUGE in Germany.  I have seen them with Blackmore and Morse and I am not going to slight Steve as his version of Kashmir gained respect from me.  I love the Dixie Dregs.  Purple is just not the same without Blackmore.  Now rainbow is a different story.  Who can't play for Ronnie James.  What an incredible rock voice.

Jim, I am not comparing Ritchie to Neal per say.  Just using an example.  I want to keep you on my side. :l2:

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2014, 08:30:49 am »
Blackmore had a great handle on the harmonic minor and I have always thought he got a lot of inspiration from baroque.  His work on Made in Japan is my favorite.

Jim, I am not comparing Ritchie to Neal per say.  Just using an example.  I want to keep you on my side. :l2:

You just did Ed.


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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2014, 09:06:15 am »
Jim, I am not comparing Ritchie to Neal per say.  Just using an example.  I want to keep you on my side. :l2:
You just did Ed.
Brad     :laugh:
That's alright......we ALL know Neil could teach Ritchie a thing or two  :icon_biggrin:


His work on Made in Japan is my favorite.
Well good,,,,,cause that's the only album I owned up until Perfect Strangers .....guess I didn't miss much

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Re: One of my all-time favorite performances
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2014, 06:30:03 pm »
Well good,,,,,cause that's the only album I owned up until Perfect Strangers .....guess I didn't miss much

Well, that explains a LOT.... :think1:

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