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reverb dwell?
« on: August 26, 2016, 03:06:35 pm »
 I can check my dwell on the 'ol dodge, but not sure how to hook up the meter on a verb tank :laugh:

anyway, I have the 3 spring 9A** tank doug sells, the recommendations I've been reading on 1 tube verb is 4A**
Can I simply remove 1 spring from the 9A since all the other specs seem to line up?

also, what it is dwell for reverb?, is it still an *angular* measurement?

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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 03:25:29 pm »
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anyway, I have the 3 spring 9A** tank doug sells, the recommendations I've been reading on 1 tube verb is 4A**    Can I simply remove 1 spring from the 9A since all the other specs seem to line up?
I don't have an answer for that. But why would you want to? I'd first see if 1/2 12AX7 can drive the tank as is. Or maybe even get a 12DW7 for the one tube reverb circuit.

Dwell simply controls the amount of signal that drives the reverb tank.
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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 03:31:05 pm »
Dwell sets the signal level to the reverb driver tube.
Amps that don't have it will just have a fixed grid leak resistor value.
The driver tube doesn't care how many springs your tank has... and the impedance matching is about the only thing that truly matters, so check the letter after "9A" and make sure that matches up too
 
Because the "type 9" is physically smaller than the "type 4", the 3 shorter springs might get you close to the 2 longer spring sound (not sure cause I've never run 'em side by side)
 
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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2016, 03:41:40 pm »
A bit of documentation if you haven't


http://www.oberlin.edu/staff/thinders/reverb/reverb.html


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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2016, 03:55:56 pm »
Because the "type 9" is physically smaller than the "type 4", the 3 shorter springs might get you close to the 2 longer spring sound (not sure cause I've never run 'em side by side)
The type 9 tank is the same size as the type 4 tanks. The type 8 is the short tank.
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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2016, 05:11:26 pm »
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But why would you want to?
I asked because on dougs page with tanks it says the 9A should be used with a dwell knob, which I don't have penciled in.  I am leaning to toward a dual AT drive, and 1/2 AX for recovery.

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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2016, 05:50:30 pm »
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But why would you want to?
I asked because on dougs page with tanks it says the 9A should be used with a dwell knob, which I don't have penciled in.  I am leaning to toward a dual AT drive, and 1/2 AX for recovery. ...

I prefer the Type 9 medium delay tanks. It's still good to have a dwell control with them, but the reverb won't be as cavernous (with/without the dwell control) as the Type 4 tanks.

If you like reverb, you ought to pencil in the Dwell control, as it makes the effect much more controllable. You may also consider an audio pot instead of the stock linear (since many say they get all the reverb they'd ever want by 4 on the Reverb control).

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Re: reverb dwell?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2016, 06:05:27 pm »
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you ought to pencil in the Dwell control
Pencil'n it is, still haven't settled on who to *borrow from*, most likely some fender with the verb-lux phrasing :laugh:

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