Welcome To the Hoffman Amplifiers Forum

September 07, 2025, 09:40:03 am
guest image
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
-User Name
-Password



Hoffman Amps Forum image Author Topic: CC resistor drift in princeton reverb  (Read 2649 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline texwest

  • Level 1
  • *
  • Posts: 94
  • I love Tube amps
Hoffman Amps Forum image
CC resistor drift in princeton reverb
« on: March 19, 2021, 02:13:29 pm »
Hey guys!  I'm working on a guys 68 princeton reverb.  Nearly every resistor in the amp is 20% off.  The plate resistors are around 120k, the input 68k's are 40k in parallel, the cathode resistors are 2k, etc.   Wondering if you think it's a good idea to replace those or not? 

I'm thinking about definitely replacing the 1.5k and other cathode resistors because I'm replacing those caps.  Thinking about leaving the plate and input resistors.  What do you think?

The amp has all sorts of other issues and sat in a barn for years so the cabinet and speaker are destroyed.  Incredibly, it does make sound in spite of a huge amount of rust on the transformers.

thanks
« Last Edit: March 19, 2021, 02:16:25 pm by texwest »

Offline pdf64

  • Level 4
  • *****
  • Posts: 2965
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: CC resistor drift in princeton reverb
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2021, 08:22:29 pm »
Whichever way you go is open to criticism.
I suggest to consult with its owner; if something’s out of spec but not actually causing a functional issue, what does he want you to do?
https://www.justgiving.com/page/5-in-5-for-charlie This is my step son and his family. He is running 5 marathons in 5 days to support the research into STXBP1, the genetic condition my grandson Charlie has. Please consider supporting him! BBC News feature  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm26llp

Offline HotBluePlates

  • Global Moderator
  • Level 5
  • ******
  • Posts: 13127
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: CC resistor drift in princeton reverb
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2021, 09:16:18 pm »
IMO, the precise values don't count for much.  If the amp sounds good, then it is good.

The best sounding vintage Princeton Reverb I ever owned had preamp cathode bypass caps that dropped in value to as low as 1µF.  I foolishly "repaired" the amp to be like-new with all new 25µF caps.

I realized later that in most blackface/silverface Fender amps I get much more low end than I really want, and tend to keep the Bass control down around 1-2.

Offline Ethan

  • Level 1
  • *
  • Posts: 6
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: CC resistor drift in princeton reverb
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2021, 09:07:18 am »
Considering how far CC resistors can drift and considering how that amp was stored, it's remarkable that the values only drifted 20% which is, technically, within spec.

Guitar amp circuits, especially many older ones, provide an enormous amount of leeway in terms of parts value variance.  I agree with the others; leave it as it is and see where you stand.  You can always replace parts or change values later if there's a problem.  You're likely to run into more issues (noise) resulting from moisture than you will from drifting values.  Do be sure to gently brush the rust off of that iron and seal it with some spray paint to prevent further damage!

Offline texwest

  • Level 1
  • *
  • Posts: 94
  • I love Tube amps
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: CC resistor drift in princeton reverb
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2021, 09:53:19 am »
Yeah this amp was sounding terrible when I got it, so there is no baseline really.   It was humming absolutely terribly because the bias cap came loose.  And you could hear AC ripple because of that too.  I'm thinking if they are more than 20% then I will replace them.

thanks for your help

Offline PRR

  • Level 5
  • *******
  • Posts: 17082
  • Maine USA
Hoffman Amps Forum image
Re: CC resistor drift in princeton reverb
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2021, 12:56:57 pm »
...Nearly every resistor in the amp is 20% off....

Change the battery in your meter.

Yes CCs drift. But not all the same amount.

 


Choose a link from the
Hoffman Amplifiers parts catalog
Mobile Device
Catalog Link
Yard Sale
Discontinued
Misc. Hardware
What's New Board Building
 Parts
Amp trim
Handles
Lamps
Diodes
Hoffman Turret
 Boards
Channel
Switching
Resistors Fender Eyelet
 Boards
Screws/Nuts
Washers
Jacks/Plugs
Connectors
Misc Eyelet
Boards
Tools
Capacitors Custom Boards
Tubes
Valves
Pots
Knobs
Fuses/Cords Chassis
Tube
Sockets
Switches Wire
Cable


Handy Links
Tube Amp Library
Tube Amp
Schematics library
Design a custom Eyelet or
Turret Board
DIY Layout Creator
File analyzer program
DIY Layout Creator
File library
Transformer Wiring
Diagrams
Hoffmanamps
Facebook page
Hoffman Amplifiers
Discount Program


password