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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2023, 11:03:52 am »
K1 and common are 72 using the vr 1 bias control




k1 and k2 are now at 0, using the vr2 bias control, just at Ampeg wanted.












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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2023, 12:25:30 pm »
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Then, with power OFF, trim VR3 for 4Kohms +/-1Kohms. Done. Have a beer.
Probably the easiest way to do this is to pull V1. Now connect one meter probe to chassis and the other to pin 3 of the V1 socket. Adjust VR3 until your ohm meter reads 15K. Done. Have a beer.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2023, 01:55:49 pm »
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Then, with power OFF, trim VR3 for 4Kohms +/-1Kohms. Done. Have a beer.
Probably the easiest way to do this is to pull V1. Now connect one meter probe to chassis and the other to pin 3 of the V1 socket. Adjust VR3 until your ohm meter reads 15K. Done. Have a beer.




I set it before I put the amp back together

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #103 on: May 09, 2023, 08:48:09 am »
Any tips to lubing the fan to get it to be quieter? It has the stock fan


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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #104 on: May 09, 2023, 05:17:33 pm »
Is it squealing? Or air-noise? Cleaning the dust-scum for smoother airflow may reduce fan noise.

BUT a properly played SVT should leave no room for comments about its fan.

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #105 on: May 09, 2023, 05:53:38 pm »
The fan exterior is clean. I'd a little lube and it should be fine.


Otherwise a new one is $35 from Fliptops. I'd guess a good desktop case fan would be good too

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #106 on: May 09, 2023, 06:35:39 pm »
Is it 12VDC? Or 120VAC?

Low-price DC fans hide the bushing under the label, maybe a rubber plug under the label.

Good AC fans come all different ways.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2023, 12:55:08 pm »
After watching some SVT videos, I want to replace the screen ,22ohm resistors. Viewing them again, they did look brownish and un-healthy looking. Before, one was bad and I should if replaced them all, now I'll go back and do it.


The question is , since the schematic says nothing, what value are the diodes they are connected with?




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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2023, 01:03:06 pm »
Many diodes have the numbers printed on the body of the diode.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2023, 01:13:31 pm »
Many diodes have the numbers printed on the body of the diode.


does 555- 2 with a sides "S" mean anything?


I have some IN4007-  r-SI, 1000v, 1A diodes

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2023, 01:25:27 pm »
Part numbers are on the schematic. According to this B15S parts list those 530555 diodes are rated 1000Vpiv and 1 AMP. A common 1N4007 has those exact same parameters.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2023, 01:27:26 pm »
Part numbers are on the schematic. According to this B15S parts list those 530555 diodes are rated 1000Vpiv and 1 AMP. A common 1N4007 has those exact same parameters.

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edit... fixed quote... sluckey
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2023, 02:11:00 pm »
Is 2 watt overkill for screen resistors? Is it OK to sub a 20 ohm instead of a 22?
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #113 on: May 12, 2023, 02:21:17 pm »
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I'm at the parts shop and they have 15 ohm 5watt not 10 ohm. Still use?
I don't see any 10Ω resistors on the schematic.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2023, 02:24:15 pm by sluckey »
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #114 on: May 12, 2023, 02:22:32 pm »
I don't see any 10Ω resistors on the schematic.
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Going from 5 to 10.

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #115 on: May 12, 2023, 02:24:14 pm »
They had the 22 in 1/2 watt

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #116 on: May 12, 2023, 02:26:28 pm »
I suggest using the correct parts.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #117 on: May 12, 2023, 02:38:12 pm »
2W 22r is 0.3 Amps. Screens have no business sucking that hard long enough to toast a big resistor. Either it is just old brown/oxidized varnish, or something is wrong.

And that is 0.3A *reverse* (since the diode bypasses normal screen current).

I have my own opinion (somebody over-designed) but certainly the stock factory values should work smokelessly.

What is a "parts store"? Like NAPA to get a tie-rod for the Jeep? DigiKey will sell any likely resistor, no compromise.

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #118 on: May 12, 2023, 03:17:06 pm »
2W 22r is 0.3 Amps. Screens have no business sucking that hard long enough to toast a big resistor. Either it is just old brown/oxidized varnish, or something is wrong.

And that is 0.3A *reverse* (since the diode bypasses normal screen current).

I have my own opinion (somebody over-designed) but certainly the stock factory values should work smokelessly.

What is a "parts store"? Like NAPA to get a tie-rod for the Jeep? DigiKey will sell any likely resistor, no compromise.




Cool, I'll go stock. The part store is You Do It Electronics and has been in business for over 40 years. They have a parts floor and a audio video floor.


They stock NTE resistors in a large range of values

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #119 on: May 12, 2023, 04:21:13 pm »
They stock NTE resistors in a large range of values
Just not the values you need!    :l2:
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #120 on: May 12, 2023, 04:24:57 pm »
They stock NTE resistors in a large range of values
Just not the values you need!    :l2:
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Actually they checked reserve stock and I lucked out

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #121 on: May 12, 2023, 04:50:57 pm »
You need some practice with the quote button!
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #122 on: May 14, 2023, 09:10:21 am »
Well, I finished  the  amp yesterday and it  was quiet and awesome. I turned it on today and there's no sound and loud hum.


What do I do first?




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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #123 on: May 15, 2023, 02:54:09 pm »
I found the hum. The positive signal wire fell off the square pre-amp plug.


A video I watched said that they are tricky and sometimes some tech's remake them.

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #124 on: May 16, 2023, 03:08:42 am »


Cool, I'll go stock. The part store is You Do It Electronics and has been in business for over 40 years. They have a parts floor and a audio video floor.


They stock NTE resistors in a large range of values

Look it is a great store ; https://www.youdoitelectronics.com

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #125 on: May 16, 2023, 03:09:46 am »
I found the hum. The positive signal wire fell off the square pre-amp plug.


A video I watched said that they are tricky and sometimes some tech's remake them.

You do a great job on this amp , congrat !

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #126 on: May 16, 2023, 04:26:22 am »
I found the hum. The positive signal wire fell off the square pre-amp plug.


A video I watched said that they are tricky and sometimes some tech's remake them.

You do a great job on this amp , congrat !




Thanks, but I have to give much of the credit this forum.




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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #127 on: May 16, 2023, 07:23:44 pm »
Tube question-


The v1 for this amp is a 12wd7.  After playing his a bit , and since the volume escalates very quickly, what lower gain tube can I use?






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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #128 on: May 16, 2023, 07:44:42 pm »
> 12wd7

12DW7?? Altho I don't see one in the schematics in this thread.

>   ....the volume escalates very quickly

Are you trying it in the garage? Don't! The SVT is scaled for a coliseum.

Because the volume pot is LINear it will get real loud by "4" on the dial, and be real twitchy, in a small space. When your 40,000 screaming fans arrive, you will want that leverage.

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #129 on: May 16, 2023, 07:58:39 pm »
> 12wd7

12DW7?? Altho I don't see one in the schematics in this thread.

>   ....the volume escalates very quickly

Are you trying it in the garage? Don't! The SVT is scaled for a coliseum.

Because the volume pot is LINear it will get real loud by "4" on the dial, and be real twitchy, in a small space. When your 40,000 screaming fans arrive, you will want that leverage.




There should be schematic on the first page of this post. It's being used in a studio. I'm just wondering if I could get a longer swing of volume. If it's no, I'll live with it

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #130 on: May 16, 2023, 08:10:15 pm »
The v1 for this amp is a 12wd7.
Never heard of that. Schematic shows 12AX7.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #131 on: May 16, 2023, 08:21:59 pm »
Here you go. This is my pre-amp but not my power amp. There were versions with all 12ax7's, this one is with 12dw7's


The back plate on my amp shows V9-SVT
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #132 on: May 18, 2023, 07:11:37 am »
Schematic posted in #131

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #133 on: May 18, 2023, 09:45:28 am »
That schematic is interesting. Not very common to see a 12DW7 in a guitar amplifier, but 4 of them? Am I interpreting this schematic correctly, that there is high voltage passing through the speaker plug connector?
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #134 on: May 18, 2023, 02:53:36 pm »
Hi All,


The correct schematic is 3 posts back


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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #135 on: May 18, 2023, 03:01:14 pm »
That schematic is interesting. Not very common to see a 12DW7 in a guitar amplifier, but 4 of them? Am I interpreting this schematic correctly, that there is high voltage passing through the speaker plug connector?
Take a look at some Magnatone schematics to see more 12DW7s. Good idea on the speaker plug.
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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #136 on: May 19, 2023, 05:01:30 am »
Picture from inside the case

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #137 on: May 19, 2023, 10:59:40 am »
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In the pre-amp there's a 40uf@450V

If you mean C12b, then you could place an 80uF cap there w/o problems, as long as it fits.   

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #138 on: May 19, 2023, 11:05:18 am »
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In the pre-amp there's a 40uf@450V

If you mean C12b, then you could place an 80uF cap there w/o problems, as long as it fits.


I've already installed a 40/450. Is there an advantage with going with the 80? Plus it would fit

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Re: SVT Bias and balance setting
« Reply #139 on: May 19, 2023, 09:00:02 pm »
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I've already installed a 40/450. Is there an advantage with going with the 80?

Without going to the effort to do a real analysis, I seriously doubt there would be a noticeable (or any) advantage to a larger capacitor in that position.

 


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