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Offline Diverted

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Curious … cathodyne question
« on: December 14, 2023, 07:37:34 pm »
Hi all,

Building a Princeton Reverb without tremolo. So V4A is unused. Other half is the cathodyne phase inverter.
What would happen if I strapped the two triodes together and halved the cathode resistor? Not brave enough to try :laugh: since it doesn’t take much to saturate the PI I’m guessing it’ll not be good.

{edit: fix typo in title --PRR}
« Last Edit: December 15, 2023, 03:27:37 pm by PRR »

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Re: Curious … cathodyne wuestion
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2023, 08:13:49 pm »
I would just leave the unused triode unconnected. That's what Hoffman did.
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Re: Curious … cathodyne wuestion
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2023, 05:41:17 am »
... cathodyne phase inverter.
What would happen if I strapped the two triodes together and halved the cathode resistor? ....

Nothing useful because the cathodyne phase inverter offers no gain.

If you wanted to do something useful with the extra triode you could use a long-tail inverter rather than cathodyne.  The problem with this approach is you would then need to move the injection point for the negative feedback from "the stage before the inverter" to "underneath the inverter."  And if you already have something like an eyelet or turret board this means re-thinking the layout & connections for that.

Yeah, you prolly just want to leave it sitting unused.

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Re: Curious … cathodyne wuestion
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2023, 08:45:01 am »
That's what I was thinking. Just curious, thanks for the insight.

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Re: Curious … cathodyne wuestion
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2023, 09:12:43 am »
If you convert the PI to a Long Tail Pair, it won’t be a Princeton Reverb any more - more like a Deluxe Reverb
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