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Re: the summer project
« Reply #300 on: October 29, 2015, 06:55:34 pm »
> Who the heck would put a distributor on the BACK of a motor!!!!

Keeps the splash off.

Today you can run a hose over an ignition system without a burp. But I sure remember when even a little damp killed the engine. Better insulation.

> Tunnelport...oooooooh!  SOHC...ahhhhh!

Exactly. All the Ford mills designed in the 1950s had pushrods where the valve ports should be. They made the ports skinny, they even stacked them up, but they were still mediocre breathers. TunnelPort was never a production option (it was dealer installed), and was a bit ugly, though it did finally make the FE breathe.

The SOHC, rare for good reason, ran into other problems. NASCAR banned it on sight. And I wonder if that chain would have stood 500 miles. The kits got shunted into 1/4 mile work, and they burned the FE's main bearings at RPMs which the Hemi took fine (for 7 seconds). The strange cure was to turn-DOWN the main bearings to fit the smaller Hemi bearing (and shim-up behind that). The surface speed (circumference times RPM) was just a little high for even few-second life at obscene RPM on the bearings of the day.

Which is no knock on the FE as a truck engine, but by '67-'68 even Ford was tired of the FE as a luxury car engine and brought out the 428, their first (post-WWII) large engine which would breathe.

IMHO, early 289s are fragile and often sludged-up before 100K miles, long before a 283 would throw its chain. The oil-pump shaft was as thick as a pencil and twisted easier. (SE oil would have been a real help, but it was all SC in those days.) There's also the awful non-seal at the front of the intake manifold (better silicone helped later).

The 351W has the same heads as the base 289/302 (extra bolt hole?). The breathing is entirely fine for the low aspirations of that period. I had a set of Hi-Po 302 heads I cudda put on my 351, but never did. (Wouldn't make sense without changing the 2.5:1 axle, also spark and carb.

I got out of the 351W and into a Honda. Much like the CB750 bike of my boyhood, with doors and more tires (but still transverse Four with meaty exhaust plumbing). It has half the miles of my 351W and I am not happy. There may be a problem with the IAC, but the ECU is doing something stupid about it, makes the car nasty to drive. And now the SRS light won't go out. Not to mention the airbag recall, non-recall, and now recall again. I left it at the dealer open-ended.

I do still have a FORD. 1967(?) 200 CID 3-cylinder. No distributor either.

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #301 on: November 08, 2015, 02:47:42 pm »
Only Ford small block I had was in a '63 Fairlane. It was the first of that family, a 221 Cu In little powerhouse ! Amazing zip for a little engine.
 A good replacement for the Y block for sure...My experience with the Y blocks was all bad...upper end oiling problems etc..
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #302 on: November 20, 2015, 06:46:16 pm »
I would use a small block Ford in a project, with no qualms.  They don't seem to be around much here, while the SBC engines are all over the place.
 I have a 350 and a 305, and a 327 sitting around here, along with a 454 tall block.  I chose the Caddy just to try something different.

I recently added rear frame braces and a transmission cooler to my project, along with two new tires......two more to go as the budget allows !

So it's mostly all together now.  The wheels & tires on it are old ones that came with the body. I have new Chevy rally type wheels for it...

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #303 on: November 27, 2015, 05:07:34 pm »
> and a 327 sitting around here,

i'd hang on to that - forged crank goodness there...small or large journal 327?

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #304 on: November 27, 2015, 05:17:14 pm »
I would use a small block Ford in a project, with no qualms.

up into the late 90's you could pick a rebuild-able 351 2V cleveland block for 100 bux. can't touch them now for less 500 to a grand, and they're usually already at max bore dia.

what i'd build: 1972 2V 351C with an aftermarket 4V intake manifold with 1970 2V heads with 10:1 compression pistons. 270-280 duration with .5" lift on the intake. should easily make 350HP.

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #305 on: January 07, 2016, 08:42:57 pm »
Just checking in !!  I'm still vertical  :icon_biggrin:   And I still have an amp on the bench which refuses to work :cussing: I've built six of these, and it's a simple amp.  The output stage ( PP 6V6s) is working, but the pre & PI isn't.  I refuse to give up on it though, and I WILL find the problem !

 I decided last fall to forget about flying anymore.  The risk goes up with age, (84) and I've been at it since 1965.  Lack of interest is creeping into the picture also...and I'm beginning to get tired..

The El Camino is ready for the shake-down cruise, but haven't got to it yet.  At least the radio I installed in it works great !
I need one more tire for it yet, for the spare.
 The tires & wheels in this pic were on it during the resto.  New rally wheels & tires on it now....

And, I'm trying to get the right tail pipe tucked up farther....




I have two airplanes apart at the same time right now. One is just some engine work ( changing a cylinder ) and the other one is getting an annual inspection after sitting in the hangar since 2011. No big rush on that one, and it will likely go up for sale.
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #306 on: January 08, 2016, 04:43:43 am »
up into the late 90's you could pick a rebuild-able 351 2V cleveland block for 100 bux. can't touch them now for less 500 to a grand, and they're usually already at max bore dia.

what i'd build: 1972 2V 351C with an aftermarket 4V intake manifold with 1970 2V heads with 10:1 compression pistons. 270-280 duration with .5" lift on the intake. should easily make 350HP.
I guess that I've lost touch with the prices of such.  351 Clevelands were a passion of mine, back in the day.  I still have two 4-barrel engines, and one 2-barrel engine, out under the shed.  And, a '66 top-load transmission for a small-block Ford.  One of the 4-barrel engines and the top-load were purchased on a pallet, from a local junk yard.  Ran the engine (as-is) in my '71 pickup truck for years.  Single-barrel Fish carburetor (replica) with adapter plate.  Picked several of these carbs from Mike Brown, back in the early 80's.  I have one original that I don't plan to use. 

Anyway, Clevelands are sleepers.  Especially, the 2-barrel engines.  Ports are as big as the big-port small blocks.  The ports on the 335 series 4-barrel engines were as big as any of the big block models.  I built my 2-barrel with 13:1 static compression, but reduced it to 9:1 with valve timing.  Man, what a strong engine.  It spun a rod bearing, and was removed.  Never opened it up.  I'm not hard on engines, so it was one of those flukes.  I rarely build anything engine related, these days.  Occasion old MC work. 

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #307 on: February 24, 2016, 12:07:52 am »
The "summer project" is complete, but waiting for snow to go away before test runs, front-end alignment, tire smoke ( :icon_biggrin: ) etc.

Meanwhile.......my niece has given me an '87 El Camino that she hasn't used for a few years.  I'm not up to doing the body-off thing again, so it will be just be fixed up to drive. It has a nice interior, and some surface  rust along the bottom etc.

 I will likely swap the boat anchor 305 engine  out for a 350 I have though,  but will keep all the electronic CCC controls, because of lock-up converter, cruise control etc, that are controlled by the ECU/BCU etc.
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #308 on: July 25, 2016, 06:20:38 pm »
 The El Camino is doing OK, tire smoke etc....
I saw this pic & thought you folks might like it !

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #309 on: July 25, 2016, 06:37:10 pm »
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #310 on: July 25, 2016, 06:39:08 pm »
Ohmmm, good to see you around. Been too loooong!
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #311 on: July 25, 2016, 07:14:03 pm »
Ditto!!!  You need to get out of the hanger and send me pics!!! :icon_biggrin:

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #312 on: July 27, 2016, 02:01:28 pm »
This picture is from last winter.  The wheels are not what's on it now.  They were on there during the resto...

Had it out on the taxi street at the airport today ( no cops ) and lots of tire smoke while checking the speedometer.  I need to change the driven gear for it in the transmission tail housing....it reads too high...

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Re: the summer project
« Reply #313 on: August 31, 2016, 12:19:25 pm »
I've been driving the El Camino occasionally,  but the AC isn't finished yet, so cool days only !!  Cooler this week, so it will get some use.  More fun to drive than a pickup truck !!
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #314 on: September 05, 2016, 02:21:31 pm »
How's it going Bill?  Good to see you're still doing projects.
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #315 on: October 23, 2016, 06:54:01 pm »
Hi Barry !
I'm slow at responding these days !! :icon_biggrin:   My current item on the bench in my basement is a table model radio, a tube type made in Japan.  Nice radio for the basement.  It has the Rice Krispies problem,,snap crackle & pop !  It does it even with the volume all the way off, so I have to replace some resistors I believe.  Schematic is on the inside of the cabinet but very small to see very good.
It's an AC filiment string type, 2-prong plug etc, so I make sure I'm on carpet when fooling with it !

Last Tuesday I arrived alive at 85 !! :icon_biggrin:   Still taking care of about 15 airplanes.  It changes every year.   Keeping all the cars running & maintained takes up some time also.

Last week all the gauges quit working in my 2003 Chevy pickup.  Took it to the local dealer, and they found that mice had chewed the wiring behind the gauges ! They replace the gauge panel...$720. exchange and repaired wiring.

More fun to come !!  El Camino is running strong !, and really hauls ass !!   HAHA !

Bill
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #316 on: July 30, 2017, 10:57:49 pm »
Guess what !  I'm still above ground !  My El Camino project is mostly a daily driver these days, being that it's Summer.
 Still doing inspections and minor repairs on airplanes, and keeping all the cars running.
 My last amp project is still sitting on the bench, and not working right, for some reason !
 Last guitar refurb project was done last winter, and it was another Rickenbacher A-25 "frypan", the early 30s cast aluminum type.  It had been worked on some years ago, and bondo filled & painted.  Had to strip the paint, TIG weld a bunch of holes shut, & put holes where they were supposed to be.  It was for another Hawaiian friend.....

file:///C:/Users/William/Documents/dads%20pics/My%20Pictures/camera%20xfer/P1011899.JPG
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #317 on: July 31, 2017, 11:18:03 pm »
good to read, bill. hope all is well.


picture didn't post.   


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Re: the summer project
« Reply #318 on: August 08, 2017, 10:54:34 am »
good to read, bill. hope all is well.

Yes.  :icon_biggrin:

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« Reply #319 on: February 15, 2018, 10:17:18 pm »
Well, it's been an "interesting' winter so far !  The local hospitals know me by my first name ! :icon_biggrin:   Turns out that I had a nasty kidney infection, I was low on iron (!), and my git-up had got-up & gone !!  All this started on my birthday, in October,for some strange reason !
Anyway, things are looking up ! I'm too stubborn to let this stuff mess with my projects & fun !  Still need to have my bladder cleaned out.  That one is gonna have me put under, so I may miss the fun procedure.
 The urologist's helper ( she is a really cute girl !) checked my prostate !  The he came in & checked it also, and I asked if anyone else wanted to check it ! :icon_biggrin:

Been driving my El Camino a bit. The heater works great in it !   I'm still fooling with a table model radio, to get the noise out of the audio stage.  And the last amp I'm building isn't cooperating.  Not really sure where or if I have a wiring issue.  One of the amps I gave away has come back for fixing.  I built that one with a PT and rectifier tube from a Sony reel-to-reel player.   EZ80 tube is a 6 volt heater, and looking at rectifers with that heater voltage, tells me that the EZ80 is still better one for that, so I'll have to get one....and so it goes...
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #320 on: February 16, 2018, 10:53:36 am »
> The urologist's helper ( she is a really cute girl !) checked my prostate !

Who do you go to? I need a prostate check.  :icon_biggrin:

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« Reply #321 on: February 16, 2018, 03:49:14 pm »
Knowing my luck, I would go there and get the OTHER helper - Bubba with the extra large hands.... :sad2:

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« Reply #322 on: February 16, 2018, 04:42:57 pm »
Some of those pretty girls have fingers like corn cobs!  :huh:

Good to hear from you Bill. Whenever you feel like tackling those amps just come on in. Door's always open. Take care my friend.
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #323 on: February 18, 2018, 05:32:25 am »
Bill, great to hear from you!  Thanks for posting and letting us know how you're doing.

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« Reply #324 on: February 19, 2018, 03:00:43 am »
Bill, good to read you're back and healing. Do take care. Smokey burn-outs in the El Cam?

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« Reply #325 on: February 20, 2018, 10:32:03 pm »
Thanks for all the kind words !  I've been taking it easy with the El Camino, because the rear tires are expensive !! :icon_biggrin:
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #326 on: December 28, 2018, 11:44:34 am »
Greetings !  I have survived Xmas OK !  Last summer was filled with radiation treatments, and some chemo to top it off !!And, I DID get my last amp project to work right !  Still don't know what the problem was..  One of my son's friends has an electric/acoustic guitar that he plays without an amp...doesn't have one.   I'm gonna give him this one, when I get it in the cabinet. Maybe I'l build something different...  We sold two airplanes this past summer, but I'm still doing inspections on around 12 airplanes.  It varies, with some being sold, and last week a friend flipped his over while landing on a soft private airstrip.....totaled it  !  Didn't get hurt though.  When I started doing inspections on that one, I talked him into the shoulder harness installation.  Good thing I did !!   No snow here..green/brown Xmas this year !
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Re: the summer project
« Reply #327 on: December 28, 2018, 01:34:41 pm »
Bill
Great to hear from you!! You need to slow down and take care of yourself young man....  That’s an order!  How is the car doing?  Does the local law enforcement know where you live now!?  Have a fantastic and healthy 2019 and dont be such a stranger!

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« Reply #328 on: December 30, 2018, 07:00:59 pm »
Hey Richie !  There is a sheriff's sub station about a block from my house !  They know who I am etc, but I don't fool around here, which is on a state highway !...
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« Reply #329 on: December 30, 2018, 08:52:17 pm »
Haha!  I wanted to let you know I never did go to the Velocity manufacturer for a checkout.  I have two girls in college so I will have to wait a little longer.  I didn't want to waste their time - although it would have been fun!  Heck, by the time the kids get off my payroll, I will probably not be able to pass my medical....  Do you ever get to Oshkosh?  That might be on my 2019 bucket list.  I've seen some cockpit videos with tower chat of those flying in - NO THANKS!!!!

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« Reply #330 on: December 30, 2018, 09:18:52 pm »
I went to Oshkosh about 6 times years ago, but lost interest in recent years.  I would rather go the Hawaii again & play Hawaiian music with my friends there !! :icon_biggrin:
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« Reply #331 on: December 30, 2018, 11:21:17 pm »
Ok now your just bragging, I don't want to talk to you any more....

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« Reply #332 on: January 10, 2019, 09:38:59 pm »
Ok now your just bragging, I don't want to talk to you any more....

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« Reply #333 on: January 15, 2019, 10:24:10 pm »
It's the hula girls !!  They do get my attention ! :icon_biggrin:
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« Reply #334 on: February 11, 2019, 06:44:16 am »
Cool,  an El Camino project!   I almost started on one about five years ago.  Local guy had a 1970 Camino he siad he would sell me for $500.  It was a 307/PG and that was the same as my first car which was a 1970 Malibu.  2dr. hdtp.  I loved that car.  have always wished I had it back.  After I calculated how much money I would have into the camino restoring it, I decided to build a boat instead...  LOL  I'll post that story in a separate thread.  Needless to say, I didn;t get the El Camino.

As for ford motors and thunderbirds, in my young and more foolish day's, I purchased a 1947 Willys Jeep. Someone had swapped out the 4cyl motor for a Ford 5.0 Windsor from a Thunderbird and had lifted it and put 36" Ground Hawg tires on it.  Ironically, neither they nor myslef thought about how to stop that thing once it was moving.  I bought it for $600 and drove it 30 mi. home up the mountain.  That was the scariest ride I ever took. It bounced more than it rolled and it wouldn;t stop  with those tiny brakes and big tires.  It never left the yard after that. 

It had a dual range tranny.  I could put it in second gear in high range, dump the clutch and spin all four tires. The electricla system was a mess.  Badly converted 6v system all hacked up.  Sold it a few years later for 800.

Right now, we have a 1987 camaro sport coupe in the garage that my sone bought and is in the process of restoring.  it is the 2.8L MPFI 6cyl.   It will most likely end up spending the rest of its life with a 4.8 or 5.3L LS based motor as soon as the 2.8 throws a rod (has a bad knock) 

Would love to see a picture of the camino.

If you have any pics of your camino project

 


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