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1 watt plate resistors.
« on: March 18, 2025, 02:45:37 pm »
i was told from various sources that 1 watt plate resistors are fine. Well these 1 watt metal film i have are tiny!  are you folks sure 1 watt metal film is enough? these things are the size of a grain of rice

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2025, 02:57:33 pm »
I just installed some of those, so I sure hope so….,

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2025, 03:27:20 pm »
bust out a breadboard, a 'lil math, test for smoke  :icon_biggrin:
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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2025, 04:34:16 pm »
i have doubts

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2025, 04:44:01 pm »
Some years back, over at Kevin O'Connor's tube amp forum, guys were having trouble with the small body resistors in the B+ power supply. They couldn't take it and were dying.

They went back to the larger body R's and then no more problems. 

I don't trust them, the small sized body R's.

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2025, 07:41:37 pm »
Also check the voltage rating of resistors that you are wanting to use where there are big voltage swings
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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2025, 07:46:32 pm »
For plate resistors, I think they're fine.  As power or dropping resistors, I'm not so sure.  I use them quite a bit and haven't had a failure yet.

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2025, 08:07:29 pm »
gonna use them in V1 and V2 plates. hopefully no issues. if i have trouble sleeping i'll pull em

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2025, 10:50:49 pm »
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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2025, 11:56:58 pm »

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2025, 01:26:11 am »
check the voltage rating
350V  probably not enough fml


350v is okay for a preamp plate or cathode load resistor given the likely range of voltage swing. Wouldn’t use them as single bleeder resistors in the power supply tho.
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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2025, 02:22:30 pm »
Well, they look smaller than what I'm used to, but not *THAT*   bad


Time will tell on the longevity.....

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2025, 09:27:54 pm »
i was told from various sources that 1 watt plate resistors are fine. Well these 1 watt metal film i have are tiny!  are you folks sure 1 watt metal film is enough? ...

The resistor's power-rating is about temperature-rise.

"When this resistor dissipates 1 watt, the body-temperature will not rise more than ____ degrees."  And we de-rate the resistor to dissipate less than its rating to keep it cool.


The implication is something about this resistor's construction enables it to throw off heat-to-the-air faster/better than older designs, such that it does not need a big surface-area to lose heat to the air via convection (or as-much surface-area as older designs).

If you want to use a 5w resistor because you like the size & look, you can use a 5w resistor.  Or get used to some newer ones being a lot smaller than what you used in the past (and assume you're gonna need a meter to verify their value, because reading the color codes is impossible).

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Re: 1 watt plate resistors.
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2025, 07:02:20 pm »
Just as a reference. I have been inside several two rock 100 watt amps and they use the tiny 3mm x 8mm KOA CF resistors on the plates of several preamp tubes. 

They hold up fine and they are only 1/2 watt. 
Here is the data sheet on them
https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/660-CF1-2C683J

I was surprised when I saw them too!

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« Last Edit: March 23, 2025, 07:05:48 pm by Guy77 »

 


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