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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #150 on: May 25, 2013, 03:36:50 pm »
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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #151 on: May 25, 2013, 04:32:38 pm »
If a sheet of paper tries to rob me, it's in for a surprise.  :l2:

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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #152 on: May 28, 2013, 01:16:21 pm »
Nice shooting!

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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #153 on: November 25, 2013, 05:38:31 am »
Well, I think I am getting a little more comfortable with my FNX-9.  I can now pretty consistently shoot 4 out of 5 shots within a grouping the size of my palm or smaller at 21 ft.  Not where I want to be obviously, but the groupings seem to be somewhat more consistent.

I'm starting to like the gun really well.  Also had a chance to shoot a Sig Sauer 9mm recently. Nice gun.  And I shot a .380 for the first time.  I like that round. Not much recoil to it.  I will say that I still prefer a revolver.  My ideal gun would be a Smith & Wesson 686 9mm but they don't make one (as far as I know).

Saw this video.  Pretty amazing shooting, IMO.  27 shots on target in under 4 seconds. Wow!

27 rounds in 3.7 seconds with a 1911 pistol with World Record shooter, Jerry Miculek
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« Reply #154 on: November 25, 2013, 08:23:13 am »
Well, I think I am getting a little more comfortable with my FNX-9.  I can now pretty consistently shoot 4 out of 5 shots within a grouping the size of my palm or smaller at 21 ft.  Not where I want to be obviously, but the groupings seem to be somewhat more consistent.


I have an FNX-9 too. I got it back in February during the post-Newtown frenzy. I've had a lot of success with it. The only time I had any feeding problems were with poor reloaded rounds that I kinda had no choice to use for practice.

I'm new to this sport, but it makes me look accurate. I get about the same groupings that you do at 21yds indoors. I've also done a Steel Challenge with it, which went really well. The FNX did not malfunction at all during that tournament.

In fact, my first year of gun ownership has had me doing sporting clays, skeet, the steel challenge and just this weekend I went deer hunting with a 30-06. All good fun.

Also had a chance to shoot a Sig Sauer 9mm recently. Nice gun.

I got to shoot a Sig P226 in the summer. That was one beautiful gun. I love a hefty fullsize handgun. Ridiculously accurate.
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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #155 on: November 29, 2013, 01:32:53 am »
You know  I like you guys more and more all the time I love shooting, I own few myself. My wife for Christmas wants one of here own. Im trying to make my mind up which fits her hand the best. Off to cabelas tomorrow, to try a few to see what she thinks. I sometimes wonder how I married so well (LOL). Well that can be good news and bad news I can honestly say I wont ever fool around on her She's to good a shot <G> :help:
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« Reply #156 on: November 29, 2013, 06:34:32 am »
Bill,

I think this Walther PPK .380 is a really nice gun.  And the .380 has less kick than the 9mm.  My understanding is the .380 is the most widely used caliber for law enforcement internationally.

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/walther-pk380-.380-acp-pistol-blue-finish-3.66-barrel.html

Having said that,  make sure you wife can pull back the slide to load the first shell. Some women are better off with revolvers for that reason.

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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #157 on: November 29, 2013, 01:05:04 pm »
Bond.....Jeff Bond... :undecided:

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« Reply #158 on: November 29, 2013, 01:07:22 pm »
Oh sorry, its just the PK, not the PPK.  Sorry Jeff, looks like you are still a red shirt rookie - watch your back!

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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #161 on: January 12, 2014, 01:36:38 pm »
I'm sticking with my own handmade wooden bows. Though antique guns have a strong aesthetic appeal.

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« Reply #162 on: January 12, 2014, 04:42:38 pm »
My favorites are the old guns

one I would like to have is this  :grin:



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But there are also video about "new" one as AR-15

see page 21 - 19 - 24 and others

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« Reply #163 on: January 30, 2014, 01:20:02 am »
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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #164 on: May 29, 2014, 09:04:02 pm »
I think I'm headed this direction.  I am still somewhat partial to a revolver.

http://www.ruger.com/products/gp100/specSheets/1707.html

IF money were absolutely NO object at all, then I'd love to have this Smith & Wesson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FbUMqoyjDw

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My revolver vs. my semi-auto.
« Reply #165 on: June 14, 2014, 04:10:34 pm »
I've been saying for some time now that I believe I am a better shot with a revolver then a semi-auto pistol.

Had a chance to find out for sure today.  I normally shoot a 9mm at around 21 feet (7 yards) at a pistol range and typically can put 4 out of 5 shots within an area the size of my palm.  I am reasonably consistent with that.

Shot a Ruger GP100 .357 (6") today with .38 shells and could hit Doug's target 5 out of 6 times at 69 feet. (I wasn't anywhere near that good with the semi-auto 9mm & was averaging hitting the target only 4 out of 10 shots). With the Ruger revolver, I was able to hit a 12" wood circle at 100+ feet two out of 6 times & came close the other 4 shots.  I just bought this revolver and love it!  I am already shooting better with it new then the 9mm after 5 or 6 times shooting with the 9mm semi-auto.   

I also shot some reasonably hot .357 loads also thru the Ruger revolver.  That was fun, but I was somewhat more accurate with the .38 shells.

Also had the privilege of shooting a Smith & Wesson .357 revolver  model 686.  It was a nice revolver too & similar accuracy to Ruger.    (Ruger was very similar in appearance but heavier with a heavier frame.)  The Ruger single action trigger pull was very comparable if not better then the S&W, IMO.  The revolver cylinder action was a little stiffer but it's a brand new pistol.

And then I shot a .44 Magnum Smith and Wesson with fairly hot factory loads at 69 feet.  5 shots with all hitting the target and about an inch off the bulls eye at 69 feet.  The gun had a standard wooden grip and certainly had some recoil to it. The owner had the trigger pull reduced down to a very light feather weight pull.  I did not care for that but it actually seemed to perhaps help my accuracy?  I was more accurate with the .44 mag then the .38 special or .357 mag.

The thing I liked the most about the Ruger GP100 with .38 shells (120 grain) was there was VERY little recoil to the pistol.  I have shot a friend's .32 Smith and Wesson WWII military issue  and I thought the .38 in the Ruger and the .32 S&W were pretty comparable.

IF the .44 mag was a "9.4" on a scale of 1-10 recoil scale.   The hot .357 load was maybe an 8.  The 9mm semi-auto is maybe a 6.5-7.  The .380 semi-auto I shot recently was maybe a 5-6.  The .38 was maybe a "4-5".  The .32 maybe a 3-4.   And a .22 maybe a 1-2.

I think I would've liked the .44 mag more IF the rubber finger contoured grips had been left on the gun, but the owner had put a fancy walnut grip on it that was very standard in shape with no finger contours at all.

It was really a very very fun afternoon of shooting and all outdoors.   

With respect, Jeff 
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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #166 on: June 14, 2014, 05:35:31 pm »
Sounds like fun

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« Reply #167 on: June 14, 2014, 08:15:01 pm »
Jeff,

Barrel length has so much to do with it.  I've got a Springfield XDM 5.25 (5.25" barrel length) and I can shoot lights out against any wheel gun of equal barrel length, at any distance.  Longer barrel = longer sight radius = better accuracy (if you have decent gun).  You figure the usual semi barrel length is around 3-4".  That is a long way from that 6" Ruger you got.  I had a 10.5" .44mag Super Blackhawk.  My brother had a 6".  I was hitting targets out at 100yrds with iron sights and my brother was digging dirt all around - and he is a heck of a shot.

You can pick up some really nice used S&W L and K frames for cheap these days - and that was about the best they ever built.  Lots of cops owed their lives to them.

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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #168 on: June 15, 2014, 04:55:53 am »
I haven't been reading all the posts, as long work hours dictate short visits.  I'm winding down on the long hours, hopefully in a few days. 

I try to check this post, as I grew up shooting a variety of weapons, though squirrel hunting was my main interest.  But, I'm curious.  There seems to be more pistol shooters than not.  How many of you reload your spent ammo?  It used to be the absolute cheapest way to enjoy a pistol.  Now, it's only a bit cheaper, but still very convenient to have loaded ammo on hand when you do want to shoot. 

I learned from CC class, awhile back, that you should consider having only factory ammo in your personal defense weapons.  You can do everything right, but a lawyer can use reloads as an excuse to put you in jail.  Under the guise of 'modified ammunition', meaning that you have done something different to the ammo (from that of factory loads) to make 'killing' a more pleasurable experience for you.  I don't remember all the details of the example given in the class.  But in a nutshell, an individual did everything right to protect his life.  And, spent six months in jail, until the NRA law team got him out. 

Wish that I could remember more, but it was enough for me to keep mine loaded with factory, and plink with my reloads. 

Anyway, back to reloading.  It was always my cold weather, rainy day time to have something shooting-related to do, when I couldn't shoot or squirrel hunt because of weather.  It's also a good excuse to go to gun shows, when you're not looking to buy a gun.  I get my powder and my primers from gun shows.  Occasionally, I buy brass in bulk, if I've finally expended the life of a particular caliber that I'm shooting.  Plus, I get to look at the antique guns that show up, from time to time.

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Re: Guns anyone?
« Reply #169 on: June 15, 2014, 07:38:14 am »
My brother has been an avid deer hunter all his life. He's been using this Thompson exclusively for about 8 years now.
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« Reply #170 on: July 13, 2014, 02:32:17 am »
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« Reply #171 on: July 13, 2014, 10:32:29 am »
I had to look this up to see exactly what it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_metal_laser_sintering

Thanks for sharing it!  I don't know how I'd feel about firing a 1,000 rounds thru it?  But it is remarkable technology.

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« Reply #172 on: July 13, 2014, 11:00:17 am »
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« Reply #173 on: July 13, 2014, 12:09:48 pm »
That is a cool video

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« Reply #174 on: September 06, 2014, 05:21:55 pm »
Went shooting again today and took my wife.  Great fun!  My wife is an excellent shot and it was the first time she shot my .357 Ruger using .38 bullets. She expressed the recoil was not an issue for her at all.  She ended up liking my nephew's .357 with .38 bullets slightly more as it is a Smith & Wesson and she thought it was smoother & it had a beautiful rosewood custom grip.

I previously had shot my nephew's .44 magnum and liked it (although he had the trigger pull reduced to a hair trigger).

Today, I got to shoot some .44 specials.  This is a lighter load.  I really like it ALOT!  His S&W has an 8.5" barrel and it's sort of a heavy revolver.  I thought the recoil was very manageable and it's just a very very accurate revolver.  While my shooting was not as consistent as I am wanting,  I actually had several truly dead in the middle bull's eyes today at around 32' shooting outdoors.

Got to shoot .22, .38, 9mm, .44 and .22 Jet (which is a .357 shell jacketed to a .22 bullet).  Loudest gun ....................... easily the .22 Jet which shoots a flame out the barrel about 15" even in broad daylight.  The .22 Jet goes BOOM and sounds like a cannon, everything else was a subtle pow to a loud bang.

Thanks again to Doug for sharing his "targets".  I printed off a dozen of them for shooting today and even using masking tape over holes, I ended up using 11 of the targets. 

With respect, Jeff 
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« Reply #175 on: September 06, 2014, 07:04:09 pm »
Nice
I have a new one on the way
A Ruger LCP


Very tiny/compact for conceal carry
http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/models.html

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« Reply #176 on: September 06, 2014, 08:52:52 pm »
Cool!  I like it.  Have you fired a .380 before?  That's one of the more pleasurable calibers to shoot, IMO. My understanding is the .380 is more widely used internationally by police then any other caliber.   It's really just a short 9mm (kinda).

I wished they made more mid/large sized pistols with .380 caliber.  The Walther also is a good .380 from what I can tell? And it looks like you can get the 3rd finger on the pistol grip if I am looking at this right.

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/walther-pk380-laser-380-acp-pistol.html

My bro-in-law carries a .380 and it shoots very nice, IMO.

Ruger makes some good stuff, I think.

Are you still shooting with some frequency like every month or two (or more?).

With respect, Jeff
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« Reply #177 on: September 07, 2014, 07:03:12 am »
No, have not shot in a long time


Hope to do it again soon

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« Reply #178 on: September 07, 2014, 11:27:12 am »
My wife's shooting with the .38 at around 32' outdoors.  5 of the 6 shots are grouped within a space the size of just my palm. The gun was not set on anything to stabilize.  Just straight forward stand up shooting.

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« Reply #179 on: September 07, 2014, 11:52:14 am »
Nice

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« Reply #180 on: September 08, 2014, 11:42:53 am »
Cool!  I like it.  Have you fired a .380 before?  That's one of the more pleasurable calibers to shoot, IMO. My understanding is the .380 is more widely used internationally by police then any other caliber.   It's really just a short 9mm (kinda).

I wished they made more mid/large sized pistols with .380 caliber.  The Walther also is a good .380 from what I can tell? And it looks like you can get the 3rd finger on the pistol grip if I am looking at this right.
I really love my Beretta Cheetah Model 84 .380
http://www.beretta.com/en/serie-80/

I picked it up at a gun show from a police officer who had used it as his backup and was moving to a more compact model.
Nowhere near as carryable as I would like,,,but I really don't carry anymore anyway, (and when I do it's a KelTec .32)

SUPER smooth firing with almost no recoil, and very comfortable in my hand....hardly moves off of the target at all

I got a bunch of 13 round mags for it and just take it to the range a couple times a year....everyone I have ever let shoot it has wanted to buy it.

I had also tried a very nice Sig P232 .380 just before I bought this one and it was a toss up.
http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p232-stainless.aspx

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« Reply #181 on: September 08, 2014, 12:47:05 pm »
My wife's shooting with the .38 at around 32' outdoors.  5 of the 6 shots are grouped within a space the size of just my palm. The gun was not set on anything to stabilize.  Just straight forward stand up shooting.

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« Reply #182 on: September 08, 2014, 01:30:21 pm »
The military can't use hollow points because of the Law of Armed Conflict. Seems when you're trying to kill your enemy, you don't want to cause undue suffering. Of course, you can keep lobbing grenades at him...



You could not use a 50 cal Machine at the enemy, but you can use it on the enemy's equipment.  "I'm sooooooooooo sorry, I was trying to hit his canteen".  I guess I missed a tad. :l2:

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« Reply #183 on: September 10, 2014, 08:56:30 am »
I switched pistols and decided to get a Diamond Back DB380 instead of the Ruger LCP
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« Reply #185 on: September 17, 2014, 12:17:13 pm »
WOW, I've been following the wrong threads on this site!  in the '90s my farm was well used for all things guns n explosions, 1.5miles of woods to the next neighbor!  Had a machinist/ reloader drill out some 30-30 rounds for me so we could stick some mercury in and see the results... they were impressive.  the best homebrew was a "tennis ball" canon that used compressed LP and shot 2" trailer hitch balls... through everything!!!
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« Reply #186 on: September 20, 2014, 11:24:57 am »
I tried printing off different colors of Doug's target for an indoor range.  I liked the florescent yellow best.  I did not care for the orange but I think it would be good outdoors?

The all "black" target (with red dot) printed on yellow florescent paper is very nice.  The  white paper with the red middle and yellow area using a color printer is also very nice. I will try pink and florescent chartreuse  next time and report back.

I am not progressing very much but am making small progress.  With the semi-auto, I am grouping shots around the bulls eye well enough to usually have 4 out of 5 somewhat rapid shots (like 1 per second) within the palm of my hand now at 25-26 feet  (vs. the 21' I was shooting). I seem to always have one "stray" and it's usually not the first shot ironically.

I wear bifocals and really need to get a gradual lens glasses.  Either the sight or the target is always slightly out of focus/blurred.

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« Reply #187 on: September 20, 2014, 11:27:57 am »
That's a good idea, I think I will add the yellow to mine

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« Reply #188 on: February 04, 2015, 12:51:09 pm »
My new Conceal carry pistol
Diamondback DB380


It looks almost like my Glocks

This thing is under 12 ounces with 6 bullets in the mag
It's very tiny and it shoots really nice

Need to get some critical defense rounds
All I have right now is regular PMC rounds that I shot for target practice

I have my conceal carry permit now and so I got something a bit smaller
It's way easier to conceal than my glock 26
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« Reply #189 on: February 04, 2015, 05:51:55 pm »
I have been in Floridah most of my life. I have been across the country and seen beautiful places like the Grand Canyon,Greenville NC, etc,etc.
I am sick of Floridah and want to get the He** out of here so bad. But it's like when your a Salmon you always swim back to where you were spawned so to speak. If i leave it will be for good. I want to gracefully leave this earth in GOD's country surrounded by good people,wild animals on four leg's unlike this transient drug infested State that has turned into nothing more than a giant dick sticking out in the water. Sorry for the rant but living here isn't for me anymore.  Gun laws here and else where are leaving people with little protection. They want you to call the police so they can just make matters worse. I miss the huge camp fires and guitar playing with good people all having a good time without the intervention of the local machine. I cant own a gun because i stole the school bus back in 1973 from the high school i was going to. I wrote the govenor of Floridah (Lawton Chiles) back in the 80's for a pardon. He died before getting my certified letter explaining that what i did was a childish thing as a youngster and that i felt we all should have the right to be able to protect my family and that i had never been a violent person or committed any kind of violent crime. I think it is unlawful for a persons right to bare arms and have the ability to protect their family be stripped away for life because of a stupid juvinille act.  They wait 3 months before bringing me to trial at which time i turned 18. BINGO FELONY! Aint life sweet?
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« Reply #190 on: February 04, 2015, 06:36:07 pm »
Doug,

Glad to know that worked out OK for you & especially glad to hear that it shoots well.  It is a really nice looking pistol. Nice size too.

I shot my bro-in-law's .380 and liked it a lot!  IF I am remembering correctly,  I think the .380 is the most widely used ammo by law enforcement in the world.  I think it's essentially the same caliber as the 9mm but with less gunpowder? 

IF you think of it, somewhere down the line, I'd love to see a grouping of shots on your target at around 21' for a reference point of accuracy.  Are you shooting almost as accurately with this as your Glock? 

Thanks for sharing it!  Best regards,  Jeff




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« Reply #191 on: February 04, 2015, 08:24:52 pm »
.380ACP is also actually a 9mm x 17mm, also was called 9mm short,  9mm kurtz, (kurtz is german word for short), etc. the 9mm x 19mm parabellum round is what we use in the M-9, Glock 19, etc, etc.


.380ACP was designed by John Browning. joerge luger developed the 9mm x 19mm parabellum.


.380ACP is slightly lower velocity round than 9x19. 9x17 is used extensively in EU by law enforcement, however, the 9x19 is the most widely used cartridge in the world by both military and LE.


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« Reply #192 on: February 05, 2015, 06:36:18 am »
Doug,

Glad to know that worked out OK for you & especially glad to hear that it shoots well.  It is a really nice looking pistol. Nice size too.

I shot my bro-in-law's .380 and liked it a lot!  IF I am remembering correctly,  I think the .380 is the most widely used ammo by law enforcement in the world.  I think it's essentially the same caliber as the 9mm but with less gunpowder? 

IF you think of it, somewhere down the line, I'd love to see a grouping of shots on your target at around 21' for a reference point of accuracy.  Are you shooting almost as accurately with this as your Glock? 

Thanks for sharing it!  Best regards,  Jeff


I've only shot it a few times, mostly just to see how it felt
I did not save any targets because I also fired a few other guns at the same targets
I usually circle the holes in a red sharpie so I know which ones are new



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« Reply #193 on: February 12, 2015, 08:46:59 am »
Plexi50:  Maybe try the following:


1.  Retry your pardon application with a Republican governor.  Note: 1) Gov. Chiles was a Democrat; and 2.  Anti-gun sentiment was on the rise in the '80's, not so much now; or


2.  Make a motion to the court for "relief from civil disabilities".  A felony conviction deprives a person from having various licenses; but after a period of time of good behavior it becomes possible to get around that.


3.  It might be too late, but try to quash or downgrade the conviction. The critical date is the date of the incident when you were still a minor, not the date of the trial.


The law sets forth specific criteria that the governor, or the court, should consider when such requests are made.  You should retain experienced legal counsel to make sure that the best possible application is submitted.  I suggest that an applicant should not try to do these things himself, and is not likely to succeed on his own. 

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« Reply #194 on: February 12, 2015, 03:55:08 pm »
Got to fire this little BB gun yesterday.  It was all dressed up with a huge Night Force scope and the Barrett computer.  The first shot was wasted because I had to rack it in (my excuse! :icon_biggrin:), but I was able to hit a 3ft circle at 1200 yrds with the next two - I used ALL of it! :laugh:  There was a little cross wind so I was guessing at the hold over.  Recoil was more of the brisk shove than a whack.  I've shot a bolt .50 and that was not fun.  The semi action and the great muzzle brake really tames the beast.  I wish I would have had more time with it because he showed me some VERY impressive groups at that distance.  Great toy but way outta my $$$$$ league for that brand name hardware.  I'm more of a Savage/Bushnell licked finger in the air kind of guy!

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« Reply #195 on: February 12, 2015, 04:09:53 pm »
Just as a point of reference, the 50 cal shooters association record for a five shot group at 1000yrds is 1.955"  :huh:

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« Reply #196 on: February 12, 2015, 05:09:50 pm »
Plexi50:  Maybe try the following:


1.  Retry your pardon application with a Republican governor.  Note: 1) Gov. Chiles was a Democrat; and 2.  Anti-gun sentiment was on the rise in the '80's, not so much now; or


2.  Make a motion to the court for "relief from civil disabilities".  A felony conviction deprives a person from having various licenses; but after a period of time of good behavior it becomes possible to get around that.


3.  It might be too late, but try to quash or downgrade the conviction. The critical date is the date of the incident when you were still a minor, not the date of the trial.


The law sets forth specific criteria that the governor, or the court, should consider when such requests are made.  You should retain experienced legal counsel to make sure that the best possible application is submitted.  I suggest that an applicant should not try to do these things himself, and is not likely to succeed on his own.

Great advice there jjasilli. I have very good attorney's in Tampa. But at this time in my life i have made it this far without any kind of any  serial run in's. Few bears here.  I wish i could say i had more faith in the judicial system.  This is a republican state all the way/


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« Reply #197 on: February 13, 2015, 02:36:00 am »
Ritchie I would like to know what would have been able to do with that toy Simo Häyhä

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« Reply #198 on: February 13, 2015, 04:42:36 am »
My first gun that was not a toy was a Daisy Target Special I received from my Dad for Christmas in 1962.  I still have it although it was confiscated by the police when I was 13 after my friends and I were arrested for "threatening students" on the WMU campus while we hunted frogs and snakes in the swamp near Goldsworth Valley apartments that summer.  Coming home in a police car lead to one of the worst beatings I ever received but I did get the BB gun back the next year.  That gun also was the one and only weapon I was ever shot with when a neighbor girl talked me into letting her carry it.  She shot me in the ass by "accident".  My Dad taught me about firearms early and I learned to shoot with his Browning 12 gauge, Remington .35 rifle and .22 semi auto.  I also had time with his Ruger .44, .41, Colt .45 and German Luger.  For my 18th birthday he gave me a Remington 1100 12 gauge.  I used it for birds, rabbits and with slugs to hunt deer.  When I was 26 I sold it to buy supplies for my young son when I was between jobs, along with my golf clubs and three classic guitars.  I have never needed anything but a shotgun (I have two 12 gauge) and a .22 (I have a classic bolt action Winchester from the 1930s).  My sons learned to shoot from me and I did once briefly own a Smith & Wesson .44 but I sold it for twice what I paid after going through a few boxes of ammo.  I still shoot varmints, mostly squirrels terrorizing our bird feeders and I am a good shot.  My wife doesn't shoot but she does know how to load either 12 gauge and if anyone does threaten us at home we feel confident that we could acquit ourselves well.  Jim
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« Reply #199 on: February 13, 2015, 06:33:16 am »
Ritchie I would like to know what would have been able to do with that toy Simo Häyhä

Franco

Simo would have been even more deadly, and he would have been able to do it from a lot farther away.  Although there are still die-hard fans of the Mosin–Nagant today who swear by it's accuracy.  I think for the most part, the .338 Lapua Mag has taken the lead in sniper operations these days.  The 50 is used more for wall and vehicle busting.  They have developed all sorts of incendiary and frag rounds for the 50.

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